stahleyp Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 19 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said: Societies judge which is okay. So a society that throws homosexuals off buildings is morally equal to one that celebrates homosexuality, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 minute ago, stahleyp said: But that's okay then. All morality comes from the same source - evolutionary instincts. So it's all equal, right? Why would you draw the conclusion that it's all equal when there exists societies all over the map with different values? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) 3 minutes ago, stahleyp said: So a society that throws homosexuals off buildings is morally equal to one that celebrates homosexuality, yes? Society is the judge of that. In our society that is not okay. Edited August 17 by ERICOPOLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 2 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said: Society is the judge of that. In our society that is not okay. If a society like that destroyed ours, it then is okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 4 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said: Why would you draw the conclusion that it's all equal when there exists societies all over the map with different values? Because they came from the same source. It's like saying one color is "better" than another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, stahleyp said: If a society like that destroyed ours, it then is okay? They would likely feel that way. Many conservatives feel that we deploy our military might in a moral manner but believe a woman to be immoral to have an abortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 Just now, ERICOPOLY said: They would likely feel that way. Many conservatives feel that we deploy our military might in a moral manner but believe a woman to be immoral to have an abortion. Yes, I understand they might feel that way but do you believe that is reality? Like, truly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 5 minutes ago, stahleyp said: Yes, I understand they might feel that way but do you believe that is reality? Like, truly? Your 'reality' of experiencing God's moral standard of 'adults only' sexual attraction is new to world history. A thousand years ago you would live in a different society with a teenage wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 8 minutes ago, stahleyp said: Yes, I understand they might feel that way but do you believe that is reality? Like, truly? There are too many examples. Human sacrifice is one. Killing a person as a ritual who has done nothing wrong, and this was believed to be good for society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 Just now, ERICOPOLY said: There are too many examples. Human sacrifice is one. Killing a person as a ritual who has done nothing wrong, and this was believed to be good for society. And that is okay if you remove your current social biases? Same with throwing homosexuals off of buildings or gassing Jews? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) 22 minutes ago, stahleyp said: And that is okay if you remove your current social biases? Same with throwing homosexuals off of buildings or gassing Jews? You can probably find the answer to all of your questions by studying Hitler's rise to power from the perspective of sociologists. Edited August 17 by ERICOPOLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 In this country and without evidence people have been led to believe that Trump won the election of 2020 and these people want to murder liberals and cleanse the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 3 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said: You can probably find the answer to all of your questions by studying Hitler's rise to power from the perspective of sociologists. A simple yes or no will do, please, Eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 1 minute ago, ERICOPOLY said: In this country and without evidence people have been led to believe that Trump won the election of 2020 and these people want to murder liberals and cleanse the country. What does that have to do with anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, stahleyp said: A simple yes or no will do, please, Eric. There is no answer to your question because I cannot remove my social biases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Religion offers simple answers, so I can see your attraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 2 minutes ago, stahleyp said: What does that have to do with anything? Understanding societies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 2 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said: There is no answer to your question because I cannot remove my social biases. There is an answer. You just don't want to say it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 People in Germany were led to believe X, Y, Z about the Jews from a manipulative leader. That became the pretext for the mass murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) Called "The Big Lie", both then and now. Edited August 17 by ERICOPOLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 Just now, ERICOPOLY said: Understanding societies. Let's say Trump wins and allows murdering of Democrat. And, of course, conservatives have all of the guns and take over society. Is that okay then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 Just now, ERICOPOLY said: People in Germany were led to believe X, Y, Z about the Jews from a manipulative leader. That became the pretext for the mass murder. ah, similar to "my body, my choice" then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 17 Author Share Posted August 17 4 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said: Religion offers simple answers, so I can see your attraction. I'm not looking for simple answers. I'm looking for what's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, stahleyp said: There is an answer. You just don't want to say it. Well if you have the answer then you shouldn't need me to give it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 3 minutes ago, stahleyp said: I'm not looking for simple answers. I'm looking for what's true. Keep searching then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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