ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, stahleyp said: Which of the 10 Commandments was violated by Moses? killing. Oh, and God gave that order, so there's that. Edited August 19, 2022 by ERICOPOLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, stahleyp said: So you think, on average, a person who "transitions" has few health problems than people who don't? If not, why make that statement? So you think, on average, homosexuals commit more rape than heterosexuals? If not, why make that statement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 I was simply mocking past statements of yours. Glad the point hit home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 41 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said: killing. Oh, and God gave that order, so there's that. "the father" ordered it. The "God. father". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 quote: Reader Dan Gorin points out that my last entry missed the fascinating law that comes right before “eye for an eye” in Chapter 21. If a man pushes a pregnant woman and she miscarries, but is not otherwise hurt, then the offender pays only a fine to the victim’s husband. This has interesting implications for how we think about abortion—in particular about the claim that killing a 17-week-old fetus is the same as killing a 17-year-old. According to Exodus, it’s not. As Gorin writes: “The text seems to clearly state that the destruction of a fetus is not a capital offense. It is a property crime for which monetary compensation is paid.” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2006/06/how-exodus-is-like-the-godfather.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ERICOPOLY said: "the father" ordered it. The "God. father". If God created life, can He not take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, ERICOPOLY said: So you think, on average, homosexuals commit more rape than heterosexuals? If not, why make that statement? I think they have many, many, many more partners than average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Eric, do you think you are a "better" person than "bigots"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, stahleyp said: If God created life, can He not take it? It's not relevant to the point being made. What is relevant is why God gave Moses and all of his men a conscience regarding killing but not taking children for brides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, stahleyp said: Eric, do you think you are a "better" person than "bigots"? There are many ingredients in the making of a good person. A bigot may give more to charity than I do. But he would be better still if he were not a bigot. Edited August 19, 2022 by ERICOPOLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, stahleyp said: I think they have many, many, many more partners than average. I think they groom themselves more than average. I think they have fewer children than average. I think they have more disposable income than average. Edited August 19, 2022 by ERICOPOLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ERICOPOLY said: There are many ingredients in the making of a good person. A bigot may give more to charity than I do. But he would be better still if he were not a bigot. Why are you not more charitable? Why is being a bigot "bad"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ERICOPOLY said: I think they groom themselves more than average. I think they have fewer children than average. I think they have more disposable income than average. I agree with that. Do you agree that they sleep around more (a lot more)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, stahleyp said: If God created life, can He not take it? Additionally, all I found written about the subject was that God told Moses to take the revenge. We don't have anything penned in God's name that could be forensically analyzed, nor do we have any recording of his orders. We only have a third hand accounting and we cannot tell whether this is another instance of a killer claiming that "God made me do it". Was Moses investigated and exonerated for the killings after a weighing of the evidence by a court? As you say this is a book about human nature and we should hold open the possibility that the story of God ordering Moses is a confabulation. Moses may not even have known it wasn't true, that's how confabulations are. Edited August 19, 2022 by ERICOPOLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ERICOPOLY said: It's not relevant to the point being made. What is relevant is why God gave Moses and all of his men a conscience regarding killing but not taking children for brides. Perhaps killing is worse than taking children for brides? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, stahleyp said: I agree with that. Do you agree that they sleep around more (a lot more)? Well, men want lots of partners. Women tend to put the brakes on that because they tend to want to be the only object of their man's desire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said: As you say this is a book about human nature and we should hold open the possibility that the story of God ordering Moses is a confabulation. Moses may not even have known it wasn't true, that's how confabulations are. You're right. In fact, the most of the Bible could be made up. But, if Jesus rose from the dead, then Christianity is still true. That's why I don't get too hung up on OT stuff. Did it bother me? Sure. But ultimately, none of that stuff is "wrong" anyway if God doesn't exist. That moral compass inside of us points to absolutely nothing if it's not guided by Someone greater than me. As I've said before, if God doesn't exist, there is no reason to think that moral truths exist. If moral truths do not exist, then neither do moral lies. So, Hitler was okay and it's also okay to throw homosexuals off buildings if that's the case. We just think they're wrong because we've been conditioned to think so. Edited August 19, 2022 by stahleyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 minute ago, ERICOPOLY said: Well, men want lots of partners. Women tend to put the brakes on that because they tend to want to be the only object of their man's desire. Not me. God gave me a woman much, much better than I deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 minute ago, stahleyp said: That moral compass inside of us points to absolutely nothing if it's not guided by Someone greater than me. Regarding child brides, the moral compass pointed to nothing for the first couple of thousand years of Christianity. Evidence of no God? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 minute ago, ERICOPOLY said: Regarding child brides, the moral compass pointed to nothing for the first couple of thousand years of Christianity. Evidence of no God? Perhaps it pointed but they ignored it. I know I've done that before. Have you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, stahleyp said: Not me. God gave me a woman much, much better than I deserve. I want lots of partners but I too have a woman much, much better than I deserve. I have self control, but I also have wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 alright baby just woke up...chat later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 minute ago, stahleyp said: Perhaps it pointed but they ignored it. I know I've done that before. Have you? But they chose to only cleanse for killing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 I see nothing wrong with having multiple partners either as long as you are honest with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERICOPOLY Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 On 8/19/2022 at 12:52 PM, stahleyp said: If God created life, can He not take it? Moses ordered his men to kill all of the men and all of the women who had laid with men. And God gave that order to Moses to take revenge. The biggest warcrime in the Bible was due to an order from God. Why don't you believe the Nazis had God in their hearts? Did Moses and his men not commit hideous atrocities and was it not God who ordered them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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