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3 minutes ago, stahleyp said:

That doesn't make any sense.

Morality is part of God's being. As Jesus said "“Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone." Mark 10:18

Oh look who is picking and choosing.  Now you assert that quotations of the bible refute the morality that comes from one's internal faith and what one hears directly from God in their hearts?

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1 minute ago, ERICOPOLY said:

Oh look who is picking and choosing.  Now you assert that quotations of the bible refute the morality that comes from one's internal faith and what one hears directly from God in their hearts?

Huh? God is the moral standard which is where goodness originates. We can glimpse this standard through our conscience. If we do God's will, we are following his moral standard. That is doing "good."  If we focus on God, He will give us more insight into His will. 

We are not good. Only God is. 

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18 minutes ago, stahleyp said:

God is the moral standard which is where goodness originates. We can glimpse this standard through our conscience. If we do God's will, we are following his moral standard.

Religious homosexuals feel that God is accepting of how they live their lives and that they are doing God's will.  Therefore they are following his moral standard.

 

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15 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said:

Religious homosexuals feel that God is accepting of how they live their lives and that they are doing God's will.  Therefore they are following his moral standard.

 

Just because someone "feels" something doesn't mean it's true.

 

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14 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said:

If all others die and only homosexuals remain, and if they are religious, faithful, and of free conscience, then they are moral. 

Their free conscience will be evidence that they follow God's moral standard.

Would you say the same thing about Nazis?

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6 minutes ago, stahleyp said:

If God doesn't exist it's okay to judge them. It's okay to throw them off of buildings too. There is no ultimate moral standard we should strive for.

Society has an ultimate standard (and they differ but with many overlapping standards).  Sometimes one society kicks the other society's ass for having a different standard.  That would be the Allies vs the Nazis.

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10 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said:

Society has an ultimate standard (and they differ but with many overlapping standards).  Sometimes one society kicks the other society's ass for having a different standard.  That would be the Allies vs the Nazis.

But if history would have happened a bit differently. Let's say Nazis got the bomb. That is okay?

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23 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said:

God's morals therefore shift and change with society and are different across different societies and across and within centuries.  Or maybe God isn't involved.

God's morals do not shift. Just society's views of morality. Sometimes society is in tune and sometimes not.

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28 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said:

Using your logic that would also hold true about Nazis. 

In other words, morals, if they come from God and heard in one's heart, are individualized for each person and are not the same for everyone.

They are the same for everyone. Some people are closer to God than others.

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1 minute ago, stahleyp said:

God's morals do not shift. Just society's views of morality. Sometimes society is in tune and sometimes not.

The Catholic Church raised the age of marriage to 16 only recently from 14.  Whereas you are saying that God himself speaks to you and that he directs you to feel in your conscience that under 18 attraction is immoral.

Why have you been the only one to hear from God in thousands of years?  Not even the heads of the Catholic Church have known of this will of God.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2010/02/red-hot-catholic-love-at-twelve-years-old/190085/

Vatican State has its own criminal system based on the former Italian criminal code (called “Zanardelli Code”, issued in 1889). Art 331 (1) of this code provides that the age of consent is set at 12 years old, but according to Art. 331 (2) when there is a relationship of dependence (like teacher/student/ etc.) the age of consent is 15 years.

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4 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said:

The Catholic Church raised the age of marriage to 16 only recently from 14.  Whereas you are saying that God himself speaks to you and that he directs you to feel in your conscience that under 18 attraction is immoral.

Why have you been the only one to hear from God in thousands of years?  Not even the heads of the Catholic Church have known of this will of God.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/daily-dish/archive/2010/02/red-hot-catholic-love-at-twelve-years-old/190085/

Vatican State has its own criminal system based on the former Italian criminal code (called “Zanardelli Code”, issued in 1889). Art 331 (1) of this code provides that the age of consent is set at 12 years old, but according to Art. 331 (2) when there is a relationship of dependence (like teacher/student/ etc.) the age of consent is 15 years.

The Catholic Church thought it was okay to shift around MAP priests.

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1 hour ago, stahleyp said:

The Catholic Church thought it was okay to shift around MAP priests.

For thousands of years after Jesus Christ was born Christian men have lived without guilt with their underage brides.

Then suddenly society's laws change and you feel guilty about taking a bride that violates the law.  I'd say it looks like your morality is coming from the society you live in.

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1 minute ago, ERICOPOLY said:

For thousands of years after Jesus Christ was born Christian men have lived without guilt with their underage brides.

Then suddenly society's laws change and you feel guilty about taking a bride that violates the law.  I'd say it looks like your morality is coming from the society you live in.

 

You might be right. If so, Nazis and homosexual throwers aren't bad people either. 

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Just now, ERICOPOLY said:

But in our society we think the Nazis were particularly bad, myself included.

If we have people in this country who want to murder liberals over another big lie, then it's possible here as well.

Yes, but that is just intolerance and Naziophobia.

If God doesn't exist all of those things are fine. There is no "sin".

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