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On 10/9/2021 at 11:47 PM, ERICOPOLY said:

As if there was any doubt remaining that the man is sick.  

 

Trump continues to lie, says 'real insurrection' happened when he lost election

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/06/1043746455/trump-continues-to-lie-says-real-insurrection-happened-when-he-lost-election

 

Paranoia is just one of the man's mental problems. He has a whole host of other mental issues in addition to his being a narcissistic sociopath.

I am all for supporting the mentally handicapped, but they have no place in leading a democratic country. History is filled with people of this ilk who have successfully aspired to form various dictatorships.  

Whenever the subject of Trump’s mental issues is brought up, it is totally ignored by his supporters, which would seem to imply acknowledgment of the fact.

You have to question the thinking processes of people who would voluntarily choose to support a mentally ill person to lead their country.

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1 hour ago, cwericb said:

Whenever the subject of Trump’s mental issues is brought up, it is totally ignored by his supporters, which would seem to imply acknowledgment of the fact.


They don't acknowledge it.  Technology is creating this mess.  Their news (Fox) is curated by algorithms to produce stories that they will like to read.  This also means that upsetting stories will not be shown to them.  The same goes for the news outlets of the left.  This effect reinforces already partisan opinions.  And the effect is for the other party's news outlets to look extremely biased and each side lives in a fake reality.

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6 hours ago, cwericb said:

 

Paranoia is just one of the man's mental problems. He has a whole host of other mental issues in addition to his being a narcissistic sociopath.

I am all for supporting the mentally handicapped, but they have no place in leading a democratic country. History is filled with people of this ilk who have successfully aspired to form various dictatorships.  

Whenever the subject of Trump’s mental issues is brought up, it is totally ignored by his supporters, which would seem to imply acknowledgment of the fact.

You have to question the thinking processes of people who would voluntarily choose to support a mentally ill person to lead their country.

FUCKING LOL and you voted for Joe Biden?! Biden doesn't even know where he is half the time. Falling asleep, reading teleprompters, not knowing the names of other world leaders, forgetting what office he holds, using a pre-determined list to call on reporters. The man can barely speak and is a shell of his former self from 10 years ago (when Obama said he was an idiot). Yet you have the audacity to criticize people who voted for Trump (who is an asshole) on the grounds of cognitive ability. Trump might not be smart, and he might be a narcissist (as are most politicians), but he is certainly lucid unlike Joe Biden. And Hillary was the other candidate in the first election....She doesn't exactly scream mentally with it either. Pretty sure she is still talking about a "stolen election". Did you vote for her? 

I wasn't even going to comment and I randomly popped on this side of the site because I was bored (classic mistake)...but good God man look around. How blind are you? The cognitive dissonance is astounding. 

 

PURE COMEDY :classic_biggrin: Damn, that made my day! Thanks Cwericb :classic_biggrin:

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2 hours ago, ERICOPOLY said:

I think it's far safer to get one's news from a source that does not have a profit incentive so that the news isn't curated to fit your worldview. 

aka:  NPR

Really? It might not be curated to fit your worldview, but it is definitely curated to fit their worldview.

Reminds me of a road trip I did two years ago, from Portland to San Diego. I was desperately trying to find radio stations with just good music, but the stations with the best reception were usually talk radio like Hannity or Ben Shapiro (both insufferable after a while), or NPR.

NPR pretty soon became unbearable as well - all about how the world is a terrible place and lots and lots of identity politics. Even when a topic sounded interesting at first, e.g. some business doing something in an innovative way, the focus most of the time pivoted to the business founder's gender or skin color rather than the innovation. "Wow, this is so great what you are doing, now tell me more about how difficult it was to start this business as a [fill in your favorite minority]..."

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Don’t live in the past, the election is over and Biden is in the White House because most people caught on that Trump was nuts and Biden was the only alternative. Now is the time to make sure that neither of those guys get to run in the next election.

Trump guys need to suck it up and face the reality that it was Trump supporters that put Biden in the White House. They backed a nut case that was unacceptable to the majority of voters.

If the Republicans would run a viable candidate that wasn’t a mental case, he/she would likely win. But I am beginning to think you guys deserve the leadership that you get. And no, I didn’t vote for Biden or Trump.

I surprised that you would not be too embarrassed to even mention the words “stolen election”. Surely you are not one of the few who still believe the election was stolen?

backtothebeach - I think the only way to get any sort of independent news is to check out news outlets from outside the country. There is a better chance that those outlets are not beholden to either US political parties and they see the country from ‘outside the box’.

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3 hours ago, Castanza said:

Trump might not be smart, and he might be a narcissist (as are most politicians)

 

This respond indicates a lack of understanding what narcissism (NPD) is.  Most politicians most certainly are not NPD.

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3 hours ago, backtothebeach said:

Really? It might not be curated to fit your worldview, but it is definitely curated to fit their worldview.

Reminds me of a road trip I did two years ago, from Portland to San Diego. I was desperately trying to find radio stations with just good music, but the stations with the best reception were usually talk radio like Hannity or Ben Shapiro (both insufferable after a while), or NPR.

NPR pretty soon became unbearable as well - all about how the world is a terrible place and lots and lots of identity politics. Even when a topic sounded interesting at first, e.g. some business doing something in an innovative way, the focus most of the time pivoted to the business founder's gender or skin color rather than the innovation. "Wow, this is so great what you are doing, now tell me more about how difficult it was to start this business as a [fill in your favorite minority]..."

Imagine if the company founder answered  "huh?", genuinely wondering why that would matter.

Well, did he(she)?

The question was likely asked because the answers are interesting and inform the listener of the barriers that minorities women face (or don't face).

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1 hour ago, ERICOPOLY said:

 

This respond indicates a lack of understanding what narcissism (NPD) is.  Most politicians most certainly are not NPD.

I have some background in psychology and it concerns me that Trump supporters do not seem to have an understanding of the serious mental issues that Trump displays and these are issues that are dangerous in a leader.

It is rather lazy for some to just laugh off his mental issues while making no attempt to do a little research regarding those issues and then try to deflect from the situation by saying, well the other guy is worse. 

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My daughter is having the same interpersonal battles with her mother that I had with her during my relationship with her mother.  Both of my kids see a therapist who describes the mother's problem as being narcissism (NPD).  

I am well versed in it.  Trump is most definitely NPD.

 

 

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4 hours ago, cwericb said:

Don’t live in the past, the election is over and Biden is in the White House because most people caught on that Trump was nuts and Biden was the only alternative. Now is the time to make sure that neither of those guys get to run in the next election.

Trump guys need to suck it up and face the reality that it was Trump supporters that put Biden in the White House. They backed a nut case that was unacceptable to the majority of voters.

If the Republicans would run a viable candidate that wasn’t a mental case, he/she would likely win. But I am beginning to think you guys deserve the leadership that you get. And no, I didn’t vote for Biden or Trump.

I surprised that you would not be too embarrassed to even mention the words “stolen election”. Surely you are not one of the few who still believe the election was stolen?

backtothebeach - I think the only way to get any sort of independent news is to check out news outlets from outside the country. There is a better chance that those outlets are not beholden to either US political parties and they see the country from ‘outside the box’.

Did you even read what I wrote? You avoided everything  I said and then projected a bunch of nonsense. The only one who is living in the past is you. Biden has been in office for almost a year and you’re still (constantly) talking about Trump. Continue to deny and avoid the train wreck we are witnessing. 
 

 I voted Trump in 2016…didn’t vote for him the second time. I don’t think the election was stolen. And I don’t think Trump should run in 2024. I think he is senile. 
 

I just think it’s utterly laughable that you sit here and say Trump has all this alarming mental behavior and then completely ignore Biden and the clear mental decline. The man looks and acts like he has dementia. It’s pretty well documented at this point. 
 

Yes or no….Biden is of sound mind and have no mental issues

 

cwericb your words are like a text version of that Spider-Man meme. Everything you said you could apply to yourself. 

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8 minutes ago, Castanza said:

Did you even read what I wrote? You avoided everything  I said and then projected a bunch of nonsense. The only one who is living in the past is you. Biden has been in office for almost a year and you’re still (constantly) talking about Trump. Continue to deny and avoid the train wreck we are witnessing. 
 

 I voted Trump in 2016…didn’t vote for him the second time. I don’t think the election was stolen. And I don’t think Trump should run in 2024. I think he is senile. 
 

I just think it’s utterly laughable that you sit here and say Trump has all this alarming mental behavior and then completely ignore Biden and the clear mental decline. The man looks and acts like he has dementia. It’s pretty well documented at this point. 
 

Yes or no….Biden is of sound mind and have no mental issues

 

cwericb your words are like a text version of that Spider-Man meme. Everything you said you could apply to yourself. 

Why do you bring up Biden when a conversation is about Trump?  It's changing the topic.  It's deflection.

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9 hours ago, ERICOPOLY said:

Why do you bring up Biden when a conversation is about Trump?  It's changing the topic.  It's deflection.

Why do you bring up Biden when a conversation is about Trump?  It's changing the topic.  It's deflection ^

You're right, I probably should have just let you and Cwericb just enjoy your circle jerk. 

 

 

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Deflect, deflect, deflect. Whenever the name of Trump is brought up. Change the subject to Joe or Hillary. That is the whole strategy of the Trump supporters. Yes, Castanza, I know you no longer support Trump, but you seem to reflexively deflect from any criticism of him.  

If you want to talk about reading prior posts, perhaps you missed that this discussion was centered on ...
“Trump continues to lie, says 'real insurrection' happened when he lost election”

So Castanza, get a grip. No one is picking on you. Trump and/or his family is gearing up for the next election. And that is concerning to us both, obviously as we both agree that Trump is an asshole (at best).

1. Yes I read your post.
2. In  your post you immediately deflected the discussion from Trump to one about Biden and then even Hillary.
3. Please point out in my post where I said anything positive about Joe Biden?
4. What I said was, Trump supporters are partially responsible for Biden being president. Trump was not a viable candidate - for you and most voters. Therefore Biden is President, for now. Remember, this is not the first President with dementia. Remember Ronald Reagan?

Do I think Biden is long past his ‘best before date”?  Absolutely. But it was the lesser of two evils and that is what people get for pumping and defending Trump.

 

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1 hour ago, Castanza said:

Why do you bring up Biden when a conversation is about Trump?  It's changing the topic.  It's deflection ^

You're right, I probably should have just let you and Cwericb just enjoy your circle jerk. 

 

 

When you wish to communicate as an adult, please return to have a conversation about Trump.  If you wish to discuss Biden, begin a topic about Biden.

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28 minutes ago, cwericb said:

Deflect, deflect, deflect. Whenever the name of Trump is brought up. Change the subject to Joe or Hillary. That is the whole strategy of the Trump supporters. Yes, Castanza, I know you no longer support Trump, but you seem to reflexively deflect from any criticism of him.  

If you want to talk about reading prior posts, perhaps you missed that this discussion was centered on ...
“Trump continues to lie, says 'real insurrection' happened when he lost election”

So Castanza, get a grip. No one is picking on you. Trump and/or his family is gearing up for the next election. And that is concerning to us both, obviously as we both agree that Trump is an asshole (at best).

1. Yes I read your post.
2. In  your post you immediately deflected the discussion from Trump to one about Biden and then even Hillary.
3. Please point out in my post where I said anything positive about Joe Biden?
4. What I said was, Trump supporters are partially responsible for Biden being president. Trump was not a viable candidate - for you and most voters. Therefore Biden is President, for now. Remember, this is not the first President with dementia. Remember Ronald Reagan?

Do I think Biden is long past his ‘best before date”?  Absolutely. But it was the lesser of two evils and that is what people get for pumping and defending Trump.

 

I'm not deflecting in anyway. I have been critical of Trump throughout his entire presidency. He wasn't a great president but imo he did a few good things. Biden imo hasn't done a single good thing. I'm pointing out clear hypocrisy on your part. 

You took the strong stance that voting for someone with mental issues is reprehensible and absolutely uncontainable. But you ignore the blatantly obvious mental problems Joe Biden has. So my point is that if you're going to find a key pillar to discuss voting choice then you need to find another. They both have issues and trying to argue one is worse than the other is splitting hairs. I said early on that Biden is Trump without the antics yet just as reprehensible in many ways past and present. 

If you're going to have a discussion then have an honest one. If you're going to throw stones, don't live in a glass house. 

"Do I think Trump Biden is long past his ‘best before date”?  Absolutely. But it was the lesser of two evils and that is what people get for pumping and defending Hillary Trump."

^ What most Trump voters said in 2016 and 2020 

  

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3 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said:

No?  That wasn't you who switch tracks over to Biden?

What's the topic? Trump, News Outlets, Insurrection, Mental state, Your ex-wife/daughters relationship, or your WebMD certified knowledge on NPD? Your second post isn't even on topic to your thread title. You're the king of deflection. You always respond with one liners ending any discussion when there is something you don't like. 

As I said, back to your circle jerk 👋

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27 minutes ago, Castanza said:

What's the topic? Trump, News Outlets, Insurrection, Mental state, Your ex-wife/daughters relationship, or your WebMD certified knowledge on NPD? Your second post isn't even on topic to your thread title. You're the king of deflection. You always respond with one liners ending any discussion when there is something you don't like. 

As I said, back to your circle jerk 👋

Attack the points made, not the poster.  Be civil.  Stick to the board rules or do not contribute on the board.

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26 minutes ago, ERICOPOLY said:

Attack the points made, not the poster.  Be civil.  Stick to the board rules or do not contribute on the board.

1.) Circle Jerk: A Circle Jerk may refer to an echo chamber.

2.) What's the topic? Trump, News Outlets, Insurrection, Mental state, Your ex-wife/daughters relationship, or your WebMD certified knowledge on NPD? This directly addresses YOUR points.

3.) "Hopefully the last paranoid president"  The current president is also mentally unstable. 

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Okay Castanza let’s see what you have said in a conversation about Trump’s mental problems and deal with the facts..

You may not realize it but you take pages right out of Trump’s playbook. Deflect, deflect, deflect, and if you can’t deflect, attack any individual who would dare to criticize.

“FUCKING LOL and you voted for Joe Biden?!”  
Immediate attempt to deflect, first mention of Biden in a discussion about Trump. And then an incorrect statement.

“Biden doesn't even know where he is half the time...”  
And on and on. More deflection from Trump.

“And Hillary was the other candidate in the first election....She doesn't exactly scream mentally with it either. Pretty sure she is still talking about a "stolen election". Did you vote for her?”
Now a deflection to Hillary Clinton. And as above, I did not vote for her.

“How blind are you? The cognitive dissonance is astounding. PURE COMEDY :classic_biggrin: Damn, that made my day! Thanks Cwericb”
More deflection from the topic - blame someone else, attack the poster. Trumpian tactics.

“Biden has been in office for almost a year and you’re still (constantly) talking about Trump.”

Once again you try to deflect the topic away from Trump.

“I just think it’s utterly laughable that you sit here and say Trump has all this alarming mental behavior and then completely ignore Biden and the clear mental decline.”
Once again the discussion was about Trump’s mental issues. He, not Biden may be running in the next election.

“Everything you said you could apply to yourself.”           ???

“I'm not deflecting in anyway. I have been critical of Trump throughout his entire presidency. He wasn't a great president but imo he did a few good things. Biden imo hasn't done a single good thing. I'm pointing out clear hypocrisy on your part.”  
You don’t think you are deflecting? You immediately shift to attacking Biden when the discussion is about trump. That is ‘deflection’.

It is like we in a discussion about the pros and cons of a Chevrolet and you keep bringing up, “but a Ford does this or a Ford does that.”

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