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I used to care more about the abortion issue but have recently come to the conclusion that it doesnt effect me so I really shouldn't have much of a dog in the fight. Yea, a baby is a life. Yea, there is so much hypocrisy in "my body my choice" when talking about this but then those same people largely have a different stance on vaccines. Facebook for one, largely lets women parade my body my choice propaganda all day but then bans anyone doing the same with a picture of a needle....

But at the end of the day I just dont care for 2 reasons. 1) its usually not quality people getting abortions anyway. and 2) to the extent its not a nationwide ban, people can just do the same shit they always do...take a day trip to a neighboring state. Especially if its that important. If its not worth traveling a few hours to get done...why are folks fussing about it? 

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The vaccine stance of mandatory vaccinations is not one of hypocrisy.  The slackers are putting other people at risk and that's not okay.  Quit hogging the resources for yourselves. 

 

A COVID Surge Is Overwhelming U.S. Hospitals, Raising Fears Of Rationed Care

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/05/1034210487/covid-surge-overwhelming-hospitals-raising-fears-rationed-care

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They are only personally accountable until they fall sick with covid.  At that point, they ask society to take care of them with society's resources.

If the triage comes, it's going to be "you're not vaccinated and you chose to be personally accountable.  Go home and hope for the best.".

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I personally dont think very much, if anything, should be illegal or mandated at the federal level. There was a genius to the constitution in granting states their own rights and letting small federal government just sit by and do the minimum. Under this type of system, you can have states that allow abortion, pot, gay marriage, guns, vaccines, heck theft and murder LOL....whatever the people that live there democratically choose. If you go to the state over, and arent playing by the rules, you pay the consequences...its something for everyone. You can have travel bans. You can not have speed limits. The whole 9. Its not hard to see the negative consequences of too much federal oversight creeping into the lives of people who dont want it...especially when the party elected represents virtually nothing they stand for. And as a result you get this childish oppositional behavior. I dont think theres a perfect answer, but keeping the federal government from telling everybody what to do and letting the places where folks live call those shots, at least lets people feel better represented. 

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Oh for sure...but thats not the world we live in today. I just got back from apple picking with the kids at a local farm. We legit waited in line for coffee and ice cream for the kids, with 4 people ahead of us, for 45 minutes. Every person ordering was requesting some stupid variation of a "triple foam, chai tea with pumpkin spice, almond dust, caramel swirl, etc", blah, blah, blah. Multiple people complained of "too hot, too cold, little more flavor, "is this the right size", etc"....Each person took like 15 minutes. To order a coffee or an ice cream...this is a big chunk of the population....self entitled, petty, spoiled, gluttonous babies. Back when there was a draft people didnt have 30 minutes to waste on shit like this and a complicated order was coffee, cream, 2 sugars...asking for a shot in the arm is not going to go over well simply because of the way you ask or who's asking. When Trump was asking half the country was skeptical because it was Trump. Now hilariously the tables have turned and some people have willingly flipped their position for reasons having nothing to do with the vaccine or their own health. Better to follow the Cleveland Cliffs strategy....$3k a head to get vaccinated. Bonus for higher community rates. Peer pressure. End the handout programs, and when it comes down to paying the rent or getting a shot, life won't be so complicated. 

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Why is it that the people who are so adamant that it is their right to choose to vaccinate or not because it is their body and no one has a right to tell them what they can do with it seem to be the same people who tell women that they do not have the same right when it comes to abortion?

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On 9/8/2021 at 2:22 PM, Gregmal said:

Because an unborn baby cant talk.......seems like a reasonable argument. 

At six weeks, many women wouldn't know they are even pregnant if their periods come every four weeks and is delayed.  Often stress, drugs and other medical issues can delay a period.

I think there would be less unwanted pregnancies if men had to get a mandatory vasectomy if they got a woman pregnant and she could not have an abortion due to state laws.  If the punishment hit both parties, I think you would see more people using protection...suddenly that condom doesn't feel so bad after all!

I saw a story on a guy telling a bunch of 18 year old girls in bikinis that they should be more modest in what they wear, and that his "righteous indignation" in the name of the Lord led him to confronting the girls.  His explanation was that he was exposed to pornography as a young boy and it hurt his life.  I find that the guys who feel this righteous indignation are often the same ones who can't control their thoughts and feelings when they see women, their bodies, etc.  The guys who usually complain about something, have their own issues and insecurities that cause them to take that stance, and little to do with any rational explanation or reasoning.  In other words, he's probably afraid of getting a boner if he accidentally looked at the women in bikinis.  Cheers!  

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On 9/10/2021 at 3:07 AM, Parsad said:

At six weeks, many women wouldn't know they are even pregnant if their periods come every four weeks and is delayed.  Often stress, drugs and other medical issues can delay a period.

I think there would be less unwanted pregnancies if men had to get a mandatory vasectomy if they got a woman pregnant and she could not have an abortion due to state laws.  If the punishment hit both parties, I think you would see more people using protection...suddenly that condom doesn't feel so bad after all!

I saw a story on a guy telling a bunch of 18 year old girls in bikinis that they should be more modest in what they wear, and that his "righteous indignation" in the name of the Lord led him to confronting the girls.  His explanation was that he was exposed to pornography as a young boy and it hurt his life.  I find that the guys who feel this righteous indignation are often the same ones who can't control their thoughts and feelings when they see women, their bodies, etc.  The guys who usually complain about something, have their own issues and insecurities that cause them to take that stance, and little to do with any rational explanation or reasoning.  In other words, he's probably afraid of getting a boner if he accidentally looked at the women in bikinis.  Cheers!  

If he's not proud of his boner he's probably got bigger smaller issues at hand!

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Hahahaha!

 

"Barrett refused to answer questions about recent rulings by the court upholding Texas' controversial law effectively banning abortion after about six weeks and allowing a lower court ruling ordering the Biden administration to reinstate a Trump immigration program to stand."

 

Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett Decries Labeling The Court As Partisan

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/13/1036597871/supreme-court-justice-amy-coney-barrett-decries-labeling-the-court-as-partisan

 

The advocacy group Fix the Court criticized Barrett's appearance before the McConnell Center.

"If Justice Barrett wants the Supreme Court not to be seen as partisan, she should avoid being hosted by a center named after the most partisan person in America," FTC's Gabe Roth said in a statement. "There's value in members of the high court speaking to audiences outside of Washington, but that concept is corrupted when stretched to rationalize appearing at events that look and sound like political pep rallies."

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  • 4 weeks later...

A U.S. judge blocks enforcement of Texas' controversial new abortion law

In his 113-page ruling, U.S. District Court Judge Robert Pitman said that from the moment SB 8 went into effect last month, "women have been unlawfully prevented from exercising control over their lives in ways that are protected by the Constitution."

He added: "[O]ther courts may find a way to avoid this conclusion is theirs to decide. This Court will not sanction one more day of this offensive deprivation of such an important right."

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/06/1040221171/a-u-s-judge-blocks-enforcement-of-texas-controversial-new-abortion-law

 

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