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Those are right-wing Boogaloo members.  Are you being sarcastic or facetious?  Cheers!

 

The tweet is sarcastic. If you look at the individuals and what they are wearing they are not "right-wing". BLM sweatshirts, rainbow flags, etc. Doesn't exactly scream "alt right". Boogaloo is anti government, anti police, anti-authority.

 

My point is instead of labeling the group as they should be labeled. The media associates them ONLY with "conservatives" which is a disservice to discourse, perception of others,  and reality.

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Just like these guys.

 

 

Those are right-wing Boogaloo members.  Are you being sarcastic or facetious?  Cheers!

 

I think he is trying to imply that BLM and Boogaloo members hang out and are best friends. Given that many boogaloo members are neo-Nazi's and white supremacists, that seems unlikely. Rather than take my word for it, why not take the word of some USCP officers who gave interviews here:

 

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/it-was-brutal-medieval-style-combat-dc-police-officers-describe-defending-us-capitol/2542536/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand

 

Doesn't seem to me that they think it was antifa or BLM. Here's a quote from the USCP officer who was filmed yelling as he was crushed in a door.

 

"If it wasn't my job, I would have done that for free. It was absolutely my pleasure to crush a white nationalist insurrection and I'm glad I was in a position to be able to help."

 

So in his estimation it wasn't BLM or Antifa as the conspiracy cultists might try to say!

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Just like these guys.

 

 

Those are right-wing Boogaloo members.  Are you being sarcastic or facetious?  Cheers!

 

I think he is trying to imply that BLM and Boogaloo members hang out and are best friends. Given that many boogaloo members are neo-Nazi's and white supremacists, that seems unlikely. Rather than take my word for it, why not take the word of some USCP officers who gave interviews here:

 

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/it-was-brutal-medieval-style-combat-dc-police-officers-describe-defending-us-capitol/2542536/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand

 

Doesn't seem to me that they think it was antifa or BLM. Here's a quote from the USCP officer who was filmed yelling as he was crushed in a door.

 

"If it wasn't my job, I would have done that for free. It was absolutely my pleasure to crush a white nationalist insurrection and I'm glad I was in a position to be able to help."

 

So in his estimation it wasn't BLM or Antifa as the conspiracy cultists might try to say!

 

“Most Boogaloos are not White Supremacists”

 

https://www.adl.org/boogaloo

 

 

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Are we really debating who was at and instigated the Capitol riots ?

 

I guess there’s Occam’s razor for some of us, and living in fantasy land for others. Be my guest for those in the latter group.

 

The media associates these folk with Trump inspired radicals. That’s an accurate view. If you think they’re “conservative”, that’s on you. My view is that folks who want $2000 checks are not “conservative”, but that’s me.

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Are we really debating who was at and instigated the Capitol riots ?

 

I guess there’s Occam’s razor for some of us, and living in fantasy land for others. Be my guest for those in the latter group.

 

The media associates these folk with Trump inspired radicals. That’s an accurate view. If you think they’re “conservative”, that’s on you. My view is that folks who want $2000 checks are not “conservative”, but that’s me.

Yep. I think that's what's going on here. There's a half truth in that there are many strange bedfellows out there. I think that is part of why people underestimated the risk, so Costanza makes at least one good point and I appreciate him sharing the ADL link.

 

The narrative that it was Antifa will crumble due to the fact that there are:

  • Trump Campaign members who stormed the Capitol and are either persons of interest or arrested,
  • Down ballot Republican Trump-supporting elected officials who stormed the Capitol arrested,
  • Trump supporters who have been arrested who are expected to try to depose Trump in their defense because 
  • they believe Trump asked them to be there
  • Because some of Trump's coterie of dirty trickster who organized "protests" and rallies are person's of interes
  • so many who were arrested or were captured on video are known trump supporters

I could keep going, but I won't. At some point it starts to look like it closer to being the Trump campaign itself rather than a group of mysterious unknown individuals.

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In case anyone forgot, the BLM riots was a reaction to police overkill and racism.

In contrast, the Jan 6 riot was an attack on your government’s rule of law and a demonstration in support of white supremacy.

 

While these groups want to use violence to change or replace the government, it seems that no one has a clue as to what changes they want or how to accomplish them.

 

Many simply want to destroy the government. Somalia and a few other places have been able to accomplish that.

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Just like these guys.

 

 

Those are right-wing Boogaloo members.  Are you being sarcastic or facetious?  Cheers!

 

The tweet is sarcastic. If you look at the individuals and what they are wearing they are not "right-wing". BLM sweatshirts, rainbow flags, etc. Doesn't exactly scream "alt right". Boogaloo is anti government, anti police, anti-authority.

 

My point is instead of labeling the group as they should be labeled. The media associates them ONLY with "conservatives" which is a disservice to discourse, perception of others,  and reality.

 

Those are Boogaloo members.  Hawaiian shirts, flowery helmets...they are right-wing terrorists.

 

Just like these guys.

 

 

Those are right-wing Boogaloo members.  Are you being sarcastic or facetious?  Cheers!

 

I think he is trying to imply that BLM and Boogaloo members hang out and are best friends. Given that many boogaloo members are neo-Nazi's and white supremacists, that seems unlikely. Rather than take my word for it, why not take the word of some USCP officers who gave interviews here:

 

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/it-was-brutal-medieval-style-combat-dc-police-officers-describe-defending-us-capitol/2542536/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand

 

Doesn't seem to me that they think it was antifa or BLM. Here's a quote from the USCP officer who was filmed yelling as he was crushed in a door.

 

"If it wasn't my job, I would have done that for free. It was absolutely my pleasure to crush a white nationalist insurrection and I'm glad I was in a position to be able to help."

 

So in his estimation it wasn't BLM or Antifa as the conspiracy cultists might try to say!

 

Actually, the Boogaloo were supportive of BLM, even though they are on opposite ends of the political spectrum.  Boogaloo want to overthrow the government...BLM simply want fair treatment of blacks.  The girl wearing the BLM shirt is a Boogaloo member.  Cheers!

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Actually, the Boogaloo were supportive of BLM, even though they are on opposite ends of the political spectrum.  Boogaloo want to overthrow the government...BLM simply want fair treatment of blacks.  The girl wearing the BLM shirt is a Boogaloo member.  Cheers!

My understanding is that the Boogaloo movement is very diverse in their beliefs and that beliefs can vary from one area or event to another.

 

What I was trying to address was the false flag conspiracy theory that some Trump supporters are pushing to try to deflect responsibility for what happened at the Capitol. There's overwhelming evidence that well known Trump supporters were involved in huge numbers and basically no evidence that BLM or Antifa were behind the Trump insurrection, but then the election wasn't stolen either.

 

 

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Antifa and the radical right need each other to justify their existence.

 

Yep. I don't get why we need to blame each side for their extremists. Why can't antifa, boogaloo, proud boys and the rest be marginalized by both sides? Why did the dems set-up a bail fund for antifa and allow them to take over part of a city. Has the Republican party setup bail funds for proud boys, Boogaloo etc. Is there any link between the capital rioters and the Republican party. Did they receive any funding?

 

When I look at WW2 its pretty clear to me that a large element of what happened was a right wing reaction to the extreme Left. The role of communists, the socialist coup and antifa in the rise of Hitler is really just not well understood. Hitler didn't come to power in a vacuum. THe left tried to produced a revolution in Germany and people reacted by supporting the extreme right.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacist_uprising

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

 

The two sides absolutely depend on each other. And cooperation between the two sides to bring down governments and cause disorder is not unusual:

On one hand, the KPD considered the Nazi Party to be one of the fascist parties. On the other hand, the KPD sought to appeal to the Strasserite-wing of the Nazi movement by using nationalist slogans.[6] The KPD sometimes cooperated with the Nazis in attacking the SPD.[24] In 1931, the KPD had united with the Nazis, whom they referred to as "working people's comrades", in an unsuccessful attempt to bring down the SPD state government of Prussia by means of a referendum.

 

I hear liberals repeatedly talk about how much we need to punch Nazis and we need to learn from what happened in Germany. But as far as I can see liberals don't know any of the history and don't appear to have learned anything.

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^ Of course they have not learned anything!  And now they have power, you see their true colors.

 

They are the ones advocating censorship and curtailing the First Amendment.

 

They are the ones going nuts with the Cancel Culture - "Plata or Plomo?" - as someone said..

 

They are the ones calling for persecution of Trump supporters.

 

They are the ones controlling the press and media.

 

It's exactly the USSR/NAZI playbook.

 

It's no more complicated than that.

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They know no better than simply what is written in the textbooks through which the foundation of their shallow lives is predicated upon. If you stuck one of these pompous fellas in the middle of a BLM riot they'd pee their pants or offer their expensive watch in exchange for safe passage. Nevertheless they never get close to anything like that and its simply easier to analyze from their corner offices and refer back to case studies from various liberal academic institutions and think tanks.

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^ Of course they have not learned anything!  And now they have power, you see their true colors.

 

They are the ones advocating censorship and curtailing the First Amendment.

 

They are the ones going nuts with the Cancel Culture - "Plata or Plomo?" - as someone said..

 

They are the ones calling for persecution of Trump supporters.

 

They are the ones controlling the press and media.

 

It's exactly the USSR/NAZI playbook.

 

It's no more complicated than that.

 

Yes...but the other side of that coin is conservative victimhood. Conservatives see themselves as powerless victims in all this. I include myself here. Conservatives appear to be completely ineffectual and constantly complaining about their powerless and the power of liberals. This is ironic given how critical conservatives are about victimhood culture. The whole dynamic is quite unhealthy.

 

Liberals appear to control all the elite institutions and conservatives have become paranoid, angry, fearful. There has to be some acceptance that whatever conservatives are doing is simply not working and not making things better. Old conservatives formulas are not working.

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^ I would not argue with that at all.

 

It's quite unhealthy to let yourself be beat into submission by these idiots. They do control the media and the academic institutions. That's clear.

 

And it's really tough. Personally, I don't care because you can't cancel me - but I don't work for anyone - and I understand the fear many

people have about being Cancelled or Doxxed. It's a despicable and vindictive trait of the Liberal leadership. And then of course, they say

"let's all come together". 

 

Unfortunately, we will likely go back to the days of the "silent majority" for a while.

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What a hag!  And what a frickin' disgrace the President pardon privilege is.  Cheers!

 

Only in the hands of a disgraceful president.

 

This will of course not be a problem under Biden's presidency, as it has never been a problem before in the hands of a decent person and Trump is anything but a decent person.  Trump is as corrupt as a soul comes.

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Personally I think the presidential pardon should be removed. It was initially intended as somewhat of a "last measure against injustice" but it has not been used in such a manner, instead it is abused by every President in their waning hours. Otherwise they would not be waiting until the last minute of their term to use the pardon.

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What a hag!  And what a frickin' disgrace the President pardon privilege is.  Cheers!

 

Only in the hands of a disgraceful president.

 

This will of course not be a problem under Biden's presidency, as it has never been a problem before in the hands of a decent person and Trump is anything but a decent person.  Trump is as corrupt as a soul comes.

 

^ Hey, at least you have a real criminal in the White House now.  The Chinese must be loving it.  The Biden family profits are now safe. Everyone is happy!

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What a hag!  And what a frickin' disgrace the President pardon privilege is.  Cheers!

 

Only in the hands of a disgraceful president.

 

This will of course not be a problem under Biden's presidency, as it has never been a problem before in the hands of a decent person and Trump is anything but a decent person.  Trump is as corrupt as a soul comes.

 

^ Hey, at least you have a real criminal in the White House now.  The Chinese must be loving it.  The Biden family profits are now safe. Everyone is happy!

 

You parrot every single political talking point from Trump.  It's incredible.

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