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Majority of Americans want Trump removed immediately after U.S. Capitol violence - Reuters/Ipsos poll | Reuters

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-poll/majority-of-americans-want-trump-removed-immediately-after-u-s-capitol-violence-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN29D2VG

 

Here's a summary of the stats:

 

57% want Trump removed immediately

70% say they disapprove of his actions in the run-up to Wednesday's assault

30% said Trump should be removed using the 25th Amendment

14% said Congress should impeach

13% said Trump should resign

 

On the other hand, polling indicates there is still a good bit of support for Trump among Republicans. There is also the QAnon portion of Trump supporters. This Reuters/Ipsos data, if representative, shows a couple of things. The numbers are bad and the trend may be worse, because as more information comes out about what happened on Wednesday it's not going to be pretty, and there will be lots of photos and videos eventually. These numbers may get worse.

 

In the heat of battle, Republicans made a tactical error in not seeing how quickly the sands might be shifting and too few changed their votes and behavior. Also now they are in a real bind stuck between those who believe the disinformation and a rapidly growing majority of the country (including Republicans) who want nothing to do with Trump. It will be a difficult needle for the party to thread.

 

 

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The man is seriously mentally ill. If not impeached, the US tax payer will be on the hook for his pension and health care for the rest of his life - not to mention having a security detail guarding him . Then there is the slap in the face of having pay for Trump's security detail who will likely have to be put up at Trumps hotels.

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Question for your poll:

 

Are those the same people that approved of BLM/Antifa burning down America for months on end?

 

Are they the same ones that bailed out those criminals in the name of "social justice"?

 

Are they the same people that believe the election was rigged by mail-in ballots and election fraud?

 

 

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Majority of Americans want Trump removed immediately after U.S. Capitol violence - Reuters/Ipsos poll | Reuters

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-poll/majority-of-americans-want-trump-removed-immediately-after-u-s-capitol-violence-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN29D2VG

 

Here's a summary of the stats:

 

57% want Trump removed immediately

70% say they disapprove of his actions in the run-up to Wednesday's assault

30% said Trump should be removed using the 25th Amendment

14% said Congress should impeach

13% said Trump should resign

 

On the other hand, polling indicates there is still a good bit of support for Trump among Republicans. There is also the QAnon portion of Trump supporters. This Reuters/Ipsos data, if representative, shows a couple of things. The numbers are bad and the trend may be worse, because as more information comes out about what happened on Wednesday it's not going to be pretty, and there will be lots of photos and videos eventually. These numbers may get worse.

 

In the heat of battle, Republicans made a tactical error in not seeing how quickly the sands might be shifting and too few changed their votes and behavior. Also now they are in a real bind stuck between those who believe the disinformation and a rapidly growing majority of the country (including Republicans) who want nothing to do with Trump. It will be a difficult needle for the party to thread.

 

To put these numbers in context, 57% of Americans thought that Nixon should be removed from office on the day he resigned. So Trump is apparently equally unpopular as Nixon on the day Nixon resigned. Unfortunately, I expect Trump will become even more unpopular as more information comes out and he will not resign. Plus there is almost certainly more violence and potentially death to come.

 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/09/25/how-the-watergate-crisis-eroded-public-support-for-richard-nixon/

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Plus there is almost certainly more violence and potentially death to come.

 

 

So you didn't have enough violence and death last year, while your loser party stood by, encouraged and condoned it? And then bailed out the criminals?

 

25+ Deaths, untold businesses and livelihoods destroyed - that wasn't enough for you?

 

Now your phony outrage?

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You really want to put that up against the federal govt’s mismanagement of COVID in terms of deaths and livelihoods lost? Let’s do that accounting.

 

You talking about all those people Cuomo/DeBlasio killed?  Ok

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Can someone explain to me why this is okay but Trump is terrible (I think both sides are terrible, personally)?

 

Burry is the man:

 

https://twitter.com/michaeljburry/status/1347590197853081601/photo/1

 

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1 Because none of those people are the President of the United States

2 Nor are they advocating attacking the seat of the US government.

3 Nor are they asking for insurrection on the basis of the lie. A lie that the election was stolen.

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Can someone explain to me why this is okay but Trump is terrible (I think both sides are terrible, personally)?

 

Burry is the man:

 

https://twitter.com/michaeljburry/status/1347590197853081601/photo/1

 

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1 Because none of those people are the President of the United States

2 Nor are they advocating attacking the seat of the US government.

3 Nor are they asking for insurrection on the basis of the lie. A lie that the election was stolen.

 

1) They are leaders. These people are actually calling for riots. Has Trump? Why is it okay for (multiple!) leaders to call for riots?

 

2) Please show evidence of Trump advocating for attacking the seat of the US government

 

3) Please show evidence of Trump asking for insurrection

 

 

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1) They are leaders. These people are actually calling for riots. Has Trump? Why is it okay for (multiple!) leaders to call for riots?

 

Of course not! Trump most peaceful man. He like Dalai Lama. Enlightened man. Trump bring much peace and tranquility to nation.

 

Love your panicking over hypothetical riots, but do you have much to say about the one on Wednesday? So far, no concern from "moderate" Stahley.

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If people are afraid of Trump, they need to seek mental health. I'm serious. I'm quite sure for the vast majority of people if they turned off their computer/tv/phone and didn't talk about politics to anyone and lived their life from 2016-2020 they wouldn't know anything was different.

 

Of course, you didn't take your own "wise" advice from a few days ago this morning.

 

What about those afraid of Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, and Kamala Harris? Is it a coincidence your greatest demons are all women?

 

Time to turn off your computer/tv/phone.

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Can someone explain to me why this is okay but Trump is terrible (I think both sides are terrible, personally)?

 

Burry is the man:

 

https://twitter.com/michaeljburry/status/1347590197853081601/photo/1

 

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Stahley - Such a beautiful example of the Pot Calling the Kettle Black.

 

Torching leaders with their own words is the epitome of Justice. Furthermore, we all know they meant it as a way of inciting violence.

No apology from these supposed "Leaders"

 

And of course, the typical idiot response - "Oh, but it was the Capitol and Congress - which is much more important that YOUR life, YOUR home, YOUR livelihood"

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1) They are leaders. These people are actually calling for riots. Has Trump? Why is it okay for (multiple!) leaders to call for riots?

 

Of course not! Trump most peaceful man. He like Dalai Lama. Enlightened man. Trump bring much peace and tranquility to nation.

 

Love your panicking over hypothetical riots, but do you have much to say about the one on Wednesday? So far, no concern from "moderate" Stahley.

 

Hypothetical?  ???

 

https://www.nj.com/news/2020/05/these-are-all-the-cities-where-protests-and-riots-have-erupted-over-george-floyds-death.html

 

Oh, I don't agree with the one on Wednesday either. I'm not a Trump fan but I do think he's the "less bad" of the two options. I see leaders who are (actively!) encouraging violence against our country and then here's why Trump was banned from Twitter.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/tech/trump-twitter-ban/index.html

 

"The first tweet was about Trump's supporters.

 

'The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!'"

 

 

And the horror of this one...I mean, shouldn't we hang the guy?

 

"The second indicated Trump did not plan to attend Joe Biden's inauguration.

 

"To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.""

 

 

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If people are afraid of Trump, they need to seek mental health. I'm serious. I'm quite sure for the vast majority of people if they turned off their computer/tv/phone and didn't talk about politics to anyone and lived their life from 2016-2020 they wouldn't know anything was different.

 

Of course, you didn't take your own "wise" advice from a few days ago this morning.

 

What about those afraid of Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi, and Kamala Harris? Is it a coincidence your greatest demons are all women?

 

Time to turn off your computer/tv/phone.

 

Yeah, dumb ideas are dumb regardless of the "social construct" that is gender. It's kind of like trickle down economics.

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^Stahley - you missed Dalal's point. he is saying you are a bigot as well as a sexist.

 

Get used to it - Trump supporter or not - should you not fall in line with the CoBF LEFT orthodoxy - you too, shall be branded.

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^Stahley - you missed Dalal's point. he is saying you are a bigot as well as a sexist.

 

Get used to it - Trump supporter or not - should you not fall in line with the CoBF LEFT orthodoxy - you too, shall be branded.

 

haha Don't forget xenophobic too because I care about our country!

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Can someone explain to me why this is okay but Trump is terrible (I think both sides are terrible, personally)?

 

Burry is the man:

 

https://twitter.com/michaeljburry/status/1347590197853081601/photo/1

 

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Did Facebook ban these individuals? How about Twitter?

 

What about Madonna saying she was going to blow up the White House. Or Jerry Nadler saying ANTIFA is a myth. Are they a myth to the people who had their businesses destroyed?

 

The law/rules should be applied fairly and indiscriminately. Currently they are not.

 

Big tech is big tech. They are private companies and can pretty much do what they want imo. But they should be clear with their rules and apply them fairly. Facebook banned Ron Paul yesterday. Makes no sense at all. A man who spent his career calling for peace. They didn't even list an offense. I'm not really sure how to reign in the power they wield. Possibly through anti-monopoly laws etc. Generally I'm not in favor of large sweeping laws as they often solidify monopolies or have unintended consequences. But there is something to be said about accountability and addressing how tech companies like FB and Twitter are viewed from a legal standpoint. I think if you are willing to remove data/posts, you become a publisher by proxy. I view users essentially as contractors publicists. Just spit balling though

 

 

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^Stahley - you missed Dalal's point. he is saying you are a bigot as well as a sexist.

 

Get used to it - Trump supporter or not - should you not fall in line with the CoBF LEFT orthodoxy - you too, shall be branded.

 

Wow, now pretending to speak for me, Cubs?

 

I find Stahley’s hypocrisy amusing in that he pretends to be a reasonable moderate but he’s clearly a Trump apologist/deflector.

 

After the Capitol riots he says is no big deal/Trump years have been peaceful and anyone concerned about Trump is being nuts and people need to turn off their computers.

 

Then he goes ahead and posts about former President Obama’s comments on race/gender from 5 years ago and a fear baiting meme about Maxine.

 

So according to Stahley, it’s crazy to be concerned about a current President inciting Capitol riots a few days ago while totally reasonable to be worried about a former President’s views on race/gender from 5 years ago and Maxine Waters right?

 

Like I said, he’s hilarious. Maxine Derangement Syndrome!

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^ Like Maxine says Dalal:

 

"If you see anyone from that Cabinet, in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and create a crowd, and you push

back on them, and you tell them, they are not welcome anymore, anywhere"

 

Maxine's words, not Stahley's...but love your imagination Dalal.

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