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Republican legislators are calling this a coup attempt. Anyone who said that we didn't have to worry about a coup attempt has finally been proven wrong.

 

People are going to die over this. Probably more likely protestors than anyone else. There are reports of gunfire, and pipe bombs. I saw video of people being taken out in ambulances on stretchers.

 

Plus with COVID, it is likely that police and especially older members of government and staffers may die from this chaos and the need to seek shelter in cramped spaces.

 

Plus this will be all sorts of risks for the police and other security agencies.

 

The "law and order President" has just given the USA it's first coup.

The first death has been announced. RIP poor victim of another Trump grift.

 

As sad as this all is, I do not think we should underestimate the probability of the following taking place:

 

-The joint session completes their constitutional duties as early as this evening. Process of Biden becoming the next President completed.

-25th Amendment being invoked within 24 hours

-Trump impeached within the next day or two

-Trump convicted and removed before the completion of his term

 

Other serious risks that currently exist is that Trump will flee the country. Impeaching, removing, and convicting Trump of sedition or some other crime and putting him behind bars, would remove the risk of him fomenting insurrection from exile or sharing the information he would take with him in his head with the enemies of the USA.

 

We also should consider that Giuliani, Stone and other dirty tricksters may find themselves behind bars again soon.

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Republican legislators are calling this a coup attempt. Anyone who said that we didn't have to worry about a coup attempt has finally been proven wrong.

 

People are going to die over this. Probably more likely protestors than anyone else. There are reports of gunfire, and pipe bombs. I saw video of people being taken out in ambulances on stretchers.

 

Plus with COVID, it is likely that police and especially older members of government and staffers may die from this chaos and the need to seek shelter in cramped spaces.

 

Plus this will be all sorts of risks for the police and other security agencies.

 

The "law and order President" has just given the USA it's first coup.

The first death has been announced. RIP poor victim of another Trump grift.

 

As sad as this all is, I do not think we should underestimate the probability of the following taking place:

 

-The joint session completes their constitutional duties as early as this evening. Process of Biden becoming the next President completed.

-25th Amendment being invoked within 24 hours

-Trump impeached within the next day or two

-Trump convicted and removed before the completion of his term

 

Other serious risks that currently exist is that Trump will flee the country. Impeaching, removing, and convicting Trump of sedition or some other crime and putting him behind bars, would remove the risk of him fomenting insurrection from exile or sharing the information he would take with him in his head with the enemies of the USA.

 

We also should consider that Giuliani, Stone and other dirty tricksters may find themselves behind bars again soon.

 

If there was any real justice in this world ...

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I don't remember Biden riling them up repeatedly, do you?

 

 

Excellent point Dalal - where was ole Joe anyway during the "summer of love"?

 

Answer:  Hiding in his basement

 

How soon we forget.

 

Your leader, not mine bro.

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This is probably the biggest crisis we've faced since WW2 and Hitler. I am glad Ive got a few guns.

My grandparents had guns before WW2 and Hitler too. They didn’t help against either.

 

Amusing to hear people who were in an uproar when a Target got looted trying to brush today off as "no big deal"

I don’t think People realize how close we are to a Weimar Republic scenario when we led this ride a little bit further.

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Republican legislators are calling this a coup attempt. Anyone who said that we didn't have to worry about a coup attempt has finally been proven wrong.

 

People are going to die over this. Probably more likely protestors than anyone else. There are reports of gunfire, and pipe bombs. I saw video of people being taken out in ambulances on stretchers.

 

Plus with COVID, it is likely that police and especially older members of government and staffers may die from this chaos and the need to seek shelter in cramped spaces.

 

Plus this will be all sorts of risks for the police and other security agencies.

 

The "law and order President" has just given the USA it's first coup.

The first death has been announced. RIP poor victim of another Trump grift.

 

As sad as this all is, I do not think we should underestimate the probability of the following taking place:

 

-The joint session completes their constitutional duties as early as this evening. Process of Biden becoming the next President completed.

-25th Amendment being invoked within 24 hours

-Trump impeached within the next day or two

-Trump convicted and removed before the completion of his term

 

Other serious risks that currently exist is that Trump will flee the country. Impeaching, removing, and convicting Trump of sedition or some other crime and putting him behind bars, would remove the risk of him fomenting insurrection from exile or sharing the information he would take with him in his head with the enemies of the USA.

 

We also should consider that Giuliani, Stone and other dirty tricksters may find themselves behind bars again soon.

 

Oh, my god, what a frickin' JOKE!

 

By your own standard - Cuomo and DeBlasio get the Gas Chamber for all the deaths they caused!!!

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Cubs the only person who had to hide in the basement was Trump, your hero.

 

But so long as you keep ranting about the delusional “stolen, fixed, bogus election, no one is going to take you seriously. That is like trying to convince people that no one has landed on the moon, that the world is flat, that Trump won the election, ...

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Two bombs were found and defused in DC, including one in the RNC's building. It is confounding that some people in this thread fail to recognize this as an insurrection with acts of domestic terrorism that was fomented by Trump and a minority of Republicans, and that their fellow Republicans could have become victims of the insurrection or the bombers.

 

At a minimum, you could at least recognize that there is a serious issue of thesis creep.

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This is probably the biggest crisis we've faced since WW2 and Hitler. I am glad Ive got a few guns.

My grandparents had guns before WW2 and Hitler too. They didn’t help against either.

 

Amusing to hear people who were in an uproar when a Target got looted trying to brush today off as "no big deal"

I don’t think People realize how close we are to a Weimar Republic scenario when we led this ride a little bit further.

 

Reading contemporaneous works from the 1920s and '30s in the part of the world shows how quickly people dismissed it all as just a passing fad and "no big deal"...

 

People thought that Adolf guy was just a clown who wouldn't achieve much.

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This is probably the biggest crisis we've faced since WW2 and Hitler. I am glad Ive got a few guns.

My grandparents had guns before WW2 and Hitler too. They didn’t help against either.

 

Amusing to hear people who were in an uproar when a Target got looted trying to brush today off as "no big deal"

I don’t think People realize how close we are to a Weimar Republic scenario when we led this ride a little bit further.

 

I have come to the conclusion that Americans in general are completely ignorant of world history (and geography), which is why they run the risk of repeating it. They must not teach it in their schools and this is the price they pay.

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I don't remember Biden riling them up repeatedly, do you?

 

 

Excellent point Dalal - where was ole Joe anyway during the "summer of love"?

 

Answer:  Hiding in his basement

 

How soon we forget.

 

Your leader, not mine bro.

 

Glad you admit "both sides" are not the same. Enjoy supporting a man who pours gasoline on fires.

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Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the failure of the two party system.

 

Lol. Classic castanza. “Buh buh buh both sides”!

 

I think the behavior is abhorrent. I think Trump lost and should leave office. Whatever evidence of voter fraud is insignificant enough to not change the election. I was satisfied with the outcome of the investigations.

 

Massie had a good tweet today "Cold Hard Facts"

1.) If every Republican votes to disallow every Biden elector on Jan 6th, Biden will still win based on simple math.

2.) No state has sent a competing set of electors. No state legislature has asked congress to reject it's electors.

3.) Trumps new AG isn't investigating anything

 

I think the handful of Republicans who encouraged this should be prosecuted. I think the Democrats who encouraged/turned a blind eye to Antifa and other groups should also be prosecuted. The fact that you can look at this and see the country divided 50/50 while only putting blame on one side is simply amazing. This isn't a movement that happened over 4 years with Chief Orange Man Bad in office. This has been in the works for a long time. Trump (with this personality and loud mouth) was the match.

 

This absolutely is a two party system failure. Anytime you establish two group and force individuals to take hard stance that eventually get to "all or nothing" or "fundamental level" changes you will have issues. There is NO middle ground available for 99% of America. It's accept this or that extreme outcome.

 

Castanza, my view is slightly different. The 2 party system is the symptom. The core problem is people are not holding politicians accountable. People celebrate unethical behaviour. They celebrate politicians who lie. They celebrate politicians who are viciously flawed. Like i say to my kids... if you don’t like something in your life to fix it the best place to start is to look in the mirror.

 

The twomparty system is forced by the constitution and the winner take all system for elections. countries that have equal representation for each vote don‘t have two party system as more than two parties can be represented in bodies the government.

 

So when you ask for abolishment of the two party system, you are basically asking for a significant change in the Constitution.

 

The two party system becomes more engrained and more important with the expansion of the government at the Federal level. The stakes are higher the more powerful govt gets. Do you think this would be happening if there wasn’t the threat of sweeping changes at a federal level across the aisle? With every action there is an equal reaction.

 

Personally I like how the Swiss setup their version of Congress/Cabinet.

 

One thing the republicans and democrats have in common is no third party.

 

Many Swiss don't know who their president is, president is not that important.

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This is probably the biggest crisis we've faced since WW2 and Hitler. I am glad Ive got a few guns.

My grandparents had guns before WW2 and Hitler too. They didn’t help against either.

 

Amusing to hear people who were in an uproar when a Target got looted trying to brush today off as "no big deal"

I don’t think People realize how close we are to a Weimar Republic scenario when we led this ride a little bit further.

 

Reading contemporaneous works from the 1920s and '30s in the part of the world shows how quickly people dismissed it all as just a passing fad and "no big deal"...

 

People thought that Adolf guy was just a clown who wouldn't achieve much.

 

You and many others said the same thing about BLM protests and ANTIFA.....

 

Will you be willing to say the same thing if Omar, AOC, and the squad usher in socialist policies?

 

Some of the pictures being shown on social media show prominent Antifa members adorning maga gear.

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Two bombs were found and defused in DC, including one in the RNC's building. It is confounding that some people in this thread fail to recognize this as an insurrection with acts of domestic terrorism that was fomented by Trump and a minority of Republicans, and that their fellow Republicans could have become victims of the insurrection or the bombers.

 

At a minimum, you could at least recognize that there is a serious issue of thesis creep.

 

And what was Trump’s message to those who planted the bombs? American posters are OK with that messaging?

 

Just tweeted by the twit...

 

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!

 

Time for the Twenty-fifth Amendment.

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While it’s a dark day in American history, Trump is enjoying running his turbulent show until the end of his presidency (13 days left and counting).

Today’s events are not a tentative putsch, but a masquerade of desperate Trump supporters living in denial and delusion after losing the Presidential election.

 

While the US capitol building complex is not easy to protect against a large crowd of punks, it’s surprising to watch the mob quickly storming the halls of Congress. It appears to me that DC's law enforcement was unprepared and outnumbered to face these violent rednecks. In the USA, riot control teams lack proper equipment, preparation and tactics. Today’s mess is a testament of their incompetence.

But American democracy and its institutions remain strong, the transition of power will take place!

 

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^ It's important to point out that worthless President Elect and then Candidate Joe Biden and faker Komrade Kamala, last summer NEVER ONCE

condemn the summer of violence, looting, arson in our wonderful cities - NOT ONCE.

 

NOT ONE WORD at the Democratic National Convention about the terrible summer of violence. NOT ONE.

 

They did however - arrange bail for the thugs and criminals involved.

 

That is the difference - don't be a hypocrite.

 

Big fucking difference between attacking Senators, Congressmen, the Speaker of the House and the VP of the United States than simply rioting in the streets.  Even you can tell the difference, can't you?  Or are you too far gone and this is just tit for tat?  Cheers!

 

Parsad, no need to say any of this, just point out the lies instead:

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-condemn-violence/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-violent-protests-in-the-last-three-months-idUSKBN25V2O1

 

Don't waste time arguing with liars or cult members or both.

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I don't remember Biden riling them up repeatedly, do you?

 

 

Excellent point Dalal - where was ole Joe anyway during the "summer of love"?

 

Answer:  Hiding in his basement

 

How soon we forget.

 

Your leader, not mine bro.

 

Glad you admit "both sides" are not the same. Enjoy supporting a man who pours gasoline on fires.

 

Enjoy your gutless hero Biden - who did nothing at all during 2020 to quell the unrest.  You like like losers obviously.

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I don't remember Biden riling them up repeatedly, do you?

 

 

Excellent point Dalal - where was ole Joe anyway during the "summer of love"?

 

Answer:  Hiding in his basement

 

How soon we forget.

 

Your leader, not mine bro.

 

Glad you admit "both sides" are not the same. Enjoy supporting a man who pours gasoline on fires.

 

Enjoy your gutless hero Biden - who did nothing at all during 2020 to quell the unrest.  You like like losers obviously.

 

“Loser”—that’s a word reserved for someone who lost by 7M votes and can’t come to terms with it.

 

Somebody get your hero a teddy.

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^ It's important to point out that worthless President Elect and then Candidate Joe Biden and faker Komrade Kamala, last summer NEVER ONCE

condemn the summer of violence, looting, arson in our wonderful cities - NOT ONCE.

 

NOT ONE WORD at the Democratic National Convention about the terrible summer of violence. NOT ONE.

 

They did however - arrange bail for the thugs and criminals involved.

 

That is the difference - don't be a hypocrite.

 

Big fucking difference between attacking Senators, Congressmen, the Speaker of the House and the VP of the United States than simply rioting in the streets.  Even you can tell the difference, can't you?  Or are you too far gone and this is just tit for tat?  Cheers!

 

Parsad, no need to say any of this, just point out the lies instead:

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-biden-condemn-violence/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-violent-protests-in-the-last-three-months-idUSKBN25V2O1

 

Don't waste time arguing with liars or cult members or both.

 

 

You're a joke and everyone knows it. Keep those lies coming brother.

 

Watch the ENTIRE DNC video from last August - and come up with clips where the Cheat-to-Win Democrats CONDEMNED the violence, murder and chaos in American cities. 

 

You won't be able to do it - because they don't exist.

 

So put up or shut up.

 

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These Trump guys are just completely in denial of the significance of an attack on their own federal government. It may not mean anything to them, but it certainly does to the rest of the world.

 

 

Try not and re-write history CW - I was HORRIFIED AND DISGUSTED all year last year. 

 

Meanwhile - Cheat-to-Win Democrats and DNC leadership losers Biden/Harris/Nadler/Pelosi, pretend NOTHING is happening.

All year long. It's all good. Peaceful protestors. Nothing to see here. Just blowing off steam. Reparations, blah, blah, blah.

 

What happened for 3-4 hours today is NOTHING compared to the travesty the Democrats perpetuated in 2020.

 

Alas, you and I agree - the world is watching and we are Third World.  Thanks for starting it all Barrack!

 

Barack has nothing to do with this except he pissed off Trump by joking about him, and the fact that he was the first black President.  Otherwise, there was nothing...I repeat...NOTHING...that Obama did that compares to what Trump has done over the last four years in degrading the Presidency and acting like the most petulant statesman to ever exist!  Cheers!

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