fareastwarriors Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 What are you reasons for optimism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gregmal Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1. No president in my lifetime has had a material effect on my ability to live life or make a living. 2. If Trump wins we get pro economy policies and if Biden wins we get a ton of stimulus 3. Potential reinstatement of SALT deductions or further round of tax cuts In either event, whether Trump or Biden prevail, capable folks will have opportunities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkbabang Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 We are still in the early days of a monumental shift in society created by the global network. This will be a shift on par with the printing press. I'm hopeful that people will come to see government for what it is. In the same way that the printing press eventually destroyed religious power, the internet will eventually destroy the power of coercive government and the centralized media that props it up. You already see the initial effects of this. Ask yourself if people respect statesmen more now or when you were young? How about major media figures? Trump has been a godsend in that he is accelerating this disrespect for the office (any office). There will be ups and downs of course, but the general trend over the next century or two will be distrust of government power and finding ways around it. I'm not saying government will go away, it will just become less relevant and less powerful. Just like the Catholic Church still exists, but it no longer has armies, and no one really cares about offending it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 The difference is that religious institutions offered little value. Science was able to improve out understanding of the world. So while technology global networks certainly help record and share information faster and more widespread than ever before, I would be curious how they will do things like administer shared services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubsfan Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Trump has been a godsend in that he is accelerating this disrespect for the office (any office). This is so true - Trump has exposed and permanently branded the MSM as "fake news" - people can now see it and BELIEVE it. It's so important to have a "free and honest press" - we still have a free press, but not an honest press. Thank God for Trump. Thank God for the internet and all the citizen journalists that offset the dishonest, lying, Ivy League journalism majors that work in the MSM and think they are better than everyone else. Republicans (never Trumpers) and Democrats and Washington establishment hate Trump. He has pissed all over their parade of "scratch my back, I'll scratch yours". Big Government has failed the American people miserably. Big Government will never forgive Trump and NEED to get rid of him. You look at a department like th VA Hospitals - a bunch of worthless do nothing bureaucrats that mistreated our veterans. Amazing the the VA has been actually fixed by someone like Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 So much for "Reasons for Optimism." Once Cubsfan and Gregmal enter the picture it's a never ending downward spiral down the toilet bowl. Stay tuned for 100's more pages of this thread with all of the greatest hits from others in their confirmation bias crew like Mephistopheles and Castanza. I hope I haven't left anyone out, although I am sure they will quickly remind us:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Trump has been a godsend in that he is accelerating this disrespect for the office (any office). This is so true - Trump has exposed and permanently branded the MSM as "fake news" - people can now see it and BELIEVE it. It's so important to have a "free and honest press" - we still have a free press, but not an honest press. Thank God for Trump. Thank God for the internet and all the citizen journalists that offset the dishonest, lying, Ivy League journalism majors that work in the MSM and think they are better than everyone else. Republicans (never Trumpers) and Democrats and Washington establishment hate Trump. He has pissed all over their parade of "scratch my back, I'll scratch yours". Big Government has failed the American people miserably. Big Government will never forgive Trump and NEED to get rid of him. You look at a department like th VA Hospitals - a bunch of worthless do nothing bureaucrats that mistreated our veterans. Amazing the the VA has been actually fixed by someone like Trump. I noticed a pretty exaggerated divide in many areas(duh) but especially with the people supportive of big government. I think a productive exercise would be, to force everyone who relies on an employer/someone else to sign their paychecks, to spend a year trying to make a living on their own. Start your own business. Hire people and be the provider rather than the mooch. It will drastically reshape how you view the system and how its set up. Government is not a good thing if you pride yourself on being self sufficient or have an eat what you kill mentality. The majority of w-2 people will simply never understand this because they are used to having their hand out, even if they arent freeloaders in the sense that many people are. Deal with red tape, deal with restrictions, deal with all sorts of absurd taxes and filing fees and licensing requirements, not to mention all the other shit you have to go through before you get your money. A lot harder than showing up 9-5 and getting a direct deposit every other week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubsfan Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 So much for "Reasons for Optimism." Once Cubsfan and Gregmal enter the picture it's a never ending downward spiral down the toilet bowl. Stay tuned for 100's more pages of this thread with all of the greatest hits from others in their confirmation bias crew like Mephistopheles and Castanza. I hope I haven't left anyone out, although I am sure they will quickly remind us:) Didn't mean to set you off Buckass - sounds like you have nothing worthwhile to say other than insults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adesigar Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 So much for "Reasons for Optimism." Once Cubsfan and Gregmal enter the picture it's a never ending downward spiral down the toilet bowl. Stay tuned for 100's more pages of this thread with all of the greatest hits from others in their confirmation bias crew like Mephistopheles and Castanza. I hope I haven't left anyone out, although I am sure they will quickly remind us:) Didn't mean to set you off Buckass - sounds like you have nothing worthwhile to say other than insults. Pot Kettle .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubsfan Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 So much for "Reasons for Optimism." Once Cubsfan and Gregmal enter the picture it's a never ending downward spiral down the toilet bowl. Stay tuned for 100's more pages of this thread with all of the greatest hits from others in their confirmation bias crew like Mephistopheles and Castanza. I hope I haven't left anyone out, although I am sure they will quickly remind us:) Didn't mean to set you off Buckass - sounds like you have nothing worthwhile to say other than insults. Pot Kettle .... Especially from you of all people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adesigar Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 So much for "Reasons for Optimism." Once Cubsfan and Gregmal enter the picture it's a never ending downward spiral down the toilet bowl. Stay tuned for 100's more pages of this thread with all of the greatest hits from others in their confirmation bias crew like Mephistopheles and Castanza. I hope I haven't left anyone out, although I am sure they will quickly remind us:) Didn't mean to set you off Buckass - sounds like you have nothing worthwhile to say other than insults. Pot Kettle .... Especially from you of all people... People living in glass houses ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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