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I saw an article on this a few days ago. The allegations of mass hysterectomies certainly need to be investigated, but the evidence presented are only allegations.

 

What concerns me is the large amount of different claims - falsifying records, bug-infested food, lack of COVID testing/isolating (for both immigrants and employees), the claims of improper medical treatment (not just the hysterectomies, also the lack of communication between various parties i.e. nurses, outpatient nurses, and outpatient doctors).

 

It's a poorly run operation and while it is government owned, it is actually the private prison company Lasalle Correction which is the operator. I think by now the criticisms of private prison companies are well known, so this appears to be another example of how for this particular social function, private enterprise is not the best option.

 

Hopefully the claims of mass hysterectomies are overblown but if not, Pelosi is correct as describing a potential staggering abuse of human rights.

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Are you equally sickened when babies are aborted without their consent?

 

Oh, come on now Paul!  -- that's just murder, what's the big deal?

 

All black lives matt...err some black lives matter.

 

Whats the saying? About ignoring what one says and paying attention to what they do?

 

Two dozen or so a year matter. Certainly not all, and definitely not even most...

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I saw an article on this a few days ago. The allegations of mass hysterectomies certainly need to be investigated, but the evidence presented are only allegations.

 

Agreed, it needs investigating, but if true would not be surprised at all given the white supremacists (Stephen Miller) that the President surrounds himself with. Yet another example of Nazism of this administration. When are the concentration camps coming?

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Nothing surprises me anymore with this administration.

 

Nor do the ridiculous attempts at deflection from its supporters (exhibited immediately in this thread, ironically). The amount of hoop-jumping that we have seen in the past 6 months alone is frankly hilarious.

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I saw an article on this a few days ago. The allegations of mass hysterectomies certainly need to be investigated, but the evidence presented are only allegations.

 

Agreed, it needs investigating, but if true would not be surprised at all given the white supremacists (Stephen Miller) that the President surrounds himself with. Yet another example of Nazism of this administration.

 

I'll assume you haven't actually studied how Nazis treated people.

 

But, I'll help you out. The Nazis, are by and large, known for killing innocent people.

 

Abortion (slaughtering an innocent human) is much, much closer to what the Nazis did since they also slaughtered innocent people.

 

See the difference?

 

Now, if you're going to compare Nazis to Trump because of (alleged) forced sterilization, let's focus on Planned Parenthood's history.

 

Planned Parenthood's founder Margaret Sanger was huge proponent of eugenics. Which, as some of us might be aware, uses forced sterilization to enforce its principles.

 

So, why aren't you comparing Trump to Sanger instead? This situation seems most closer than "Nazis."

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Nothing surprises me anymore with this administration.

 

Nor do the ridiculous attempts at deflection from its supporters (exhibited immediately in this thread, ironically). The amount of hoop-jumping that we have seen in the past 6 months alone is frankly hilarious.

 

 

The deflection is widespread among all sorts of Trump supporters. It's almost as if the policy itself is indefensible, so let's justify it by talking about other unrelated matters. Forced hysterectomies, if true, terrible. But hey look, abortions are terrible too.

 

I want to start a pro life thread and have someone point out that "hey look there is forced hysterectomies in the detention centers, let's talk about that" lol.

 

I'm fairly pro life btw but that won't fit the narrative of these people and it shouldn't be relavent to the topic at hand.

 

A cousin of mine voted Trump in 16 and now is undecided. He's mainly unhappy with the COVID response, but otherwise doesn't seem to have issues with Trump. I tried telling him about the firing of U.S. Attorneys that were investigating Trump allies, and how authoritarian it is. And instead of defending it he said "well Alberto Gonzalez did that too".

 

So what is his point? That A) Alberto Gonzalez did it which makes it okay? (He resigned over the scandal) or B) Yes it's bad what Barr is doing, but others have done bad things too so let's just ignore this.

 

My guess is that it's B.

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Isn't this kind of whats amusing about all of this? How many times in just the past month, let alone the past 4 years has this happened?

 

"Forced hysterectomies, if true,"....So why dont we actually go verify whether or not it is true before we lose our shit going on all these rants and tangents about nazis and dictators and whatnot. You people get so worked up over bullshit. The media is certainly the enemy, but at the same time, I would think people have a basic ability to verify whats being fed to them first...before chosing to get all worked up over it and create these hyper dramatic narratives predicated on gossip and tabloid level reporting.

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Nothing surprises me anymore with this administration.

 

Nor do the ridiculous attempts at deflection from its supporters (exhibited immediately in this thread, ironically). The amount of hoop-jumping that we have seen in the past 6 months alone is frankly hilarious.

 

I'm fairly pro life btw but that won't fit the narrative of these people and it shouldn't be relavent to the topic at hand.

 

 

 

 

I'm glad you're fairly pro-life.

 

Isn't the purpose of hysterectomies to be sterile (ie no baby)? Isn't the purpose of abortion to "sterilize" the baby (ie no baby)?

 

I just find it odd that people get up in arms about this but do not get up in arms about murder.

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Guys, gals (and non-binary humans), did you hear about the white supremacists in MAGA hates that attacked an lgbtq black actor?

 

Must be homophobes...and racists!

 

Did you hear about the MAGA hat Catholic kid tormenting the Native American and black people while he was fighting against women rights?

 

Totally a white supremacist and misogynist.

 

White people are eviiiiiil!

 

Harris/Biden 2020!

 

Speaking of the media pushing an agenda with false and or unverified claims.  :-X

 

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Isn't this kind of whats amusing about all of this? How many times in just the past month, let alone the past 4 years has this happened?

 

"Forced hysterectomies, if true,"....So why dont we actually go verify whether or not it is true before we lose our shit going on all these rants and tangents about nazis and dictators and whatnot. You people get so worked up over bullshit. The media is certainly the enemy, but at the same time, I would think people have a basic ability to verify whats being fed to them first...before chosing to get all worked up over it and create these hyper dramatic narratives predicated on gossip and tabloid level reporting.

 

Ya there's a whisteblower and we will see what happens. From the administration that separated families at the border, it's not too hard to believe.

 

When something is anonymous, you blame it being anonymous, then when there is a verified source, you say it's not a big deal. This happened with the "losers and suckers" controversy in the other thread.

 

Besides, some of your people here post from Breitbart, I think the Washington Post is more credible than Breitbart.

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I saw an article on this a few days ago. The allegations of mass hysterectomies certainly need to be investigated, but the evidence presented are only allegations.

 

Agreed, it needs investigating, but if true would not be surprised at all given the white supremacists (Stephen Miller) that the President surrounds himself with. Yet another example of Nazism of this administration. When are the concentration camps coming?

 

Are you talking about the Jew, Stephen Miller - the NAZI??

 

Oh, yeah that one...the Russian Jew, Stephen Miller.

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I saw an article on this a few days ago. The allegations of mass hysterectomies certainly need to be investigated, but the evidence presented are only allegations.

 

Agreed, it needs investigating, but if true would not be surprised at all given the white supremacists (Stephen Miller) that the President surrounds himself with. Yet another example of Nazism of this administration. When are the concentration camps coming?

 

Are you talking about the Jew, Stephen Miller - the NAZI??

 

Oh, yeah that one...the Russian Jew, Stephen Miller.

 

I don't know a ton about Miller, but the fact that Miller is on the list of the Southern Poverty Law Center as an ugh "extremist" means he's doing something right.

 

 

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Besides, some of your people here post from Breitbart, I think the Washington Post is more credible than Breitbart.

 

:o :-\ ;D

 

Over the years journalists have moved right on up there, second only to politicians, as human scum. I literal think of all of them like this, and recant this only on an individual case by case basis. Scum until proven otherwise. If someone told me they were a journalist, I would immediately think less of them. So Wapo or Breitbart...makes no difference. These are people who are only out for themselves and care for nothing other than to manipulate the American people to further their careers and personal interests.

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I saw an article on this a few days ago. The allegations of mass hysterectomies certainly need to be investigated, but the evidence presented are only allegations.

 

Agreed, it needs investigating, but if true would not be surprised at all given the white supremacists (Stephen Miller) that the President surrounds himself with. Yet another example of Nazism of this administration. When are the concentration camps coming?

 

Man oh, man - all those NAZIs in the Trump Administration.

 

That dirty son-in-law Jew NAZI, Jared Kushner - must be padding his nest while collaborating with the Arabs to bring peace to the Middle East.

No way this move by a Jew like Jared can be real - he must be getting paid off somehow..

 

And that Jew, Stephen Miller - whose family came from Russia to escape the Anti-Jewish Pogroms...

Now the dude is a frickin' NAZI setting up concentration camps!

 

That Trump really really knows how to pick his traitors to the Jewish cause.

 

Judas would be so proud!

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Besides, some of your people here post from Breitbart, I think the Washington Post is more credible than Breitbart.

 

:o :-\ ;D

 

Over the years journalists have moved right on up there, second only to politicians, as human scum. I literal think of all of them like this, and recant this only on an individual case by case basis. Scum until proven otherwise. If someone told me they were a journalist, I would immediately think less of them. So Wapo or Breitbart...makes no difference. These are people who are only out for themselves and care for nothing other than to manipulate the American people to further their careers and personal interests.

 

I think it depends on who the audience is.

 

Some media outlets cater to the intelligent who just want to be informed. WaPo fits into this group, as well as WSJ, NYT, FT. A scum journalist at any of these outlets would be detrimental to their credibility. In that way they are out for themselves as you say, yes, in that they want to remain relevant and present decent reporting.

 

Can't say the same about breitbart

 

Anyway, let's see what the hysterectomy investigation reveals. But if it is proven or obvious to be correct, I expect to hear a lot about abortion and Hillary's emails in this thread.

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