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I don't want to get into the debatable nature of Trump's impeachment, but I highly found amusing his rally rant yesterday when he was blaming the Democrats continually and then suddenly veered and said "By the way, it doesn't really feel like we're even being impeached!"  Cheers!

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Honestly, I love it. Trump has single handedly done more to disrupt the corrupt system than probably any person in my lifetime. There were people who not long ago disputed the claim that he was a political genius and king of playing puppet master. However after this, there is no question as he has singlehandedly just destroyed the Democratic Party.

 

Sure, he also highlighted many flaws with Republicans along the way; none larger than how they all hated him, and then within a year or two become his servants once they saw what the Trump train meant for their careers. But with the Democrats...look at how bad he's made them look?

 

-Fat Jerry Nadler spends two years foaming at the mouth on TV talking about how he wants to impeach Trump...then sits in his chair and tells people with a straight face that he does want to do this!

 

-Nancy Pelosi is openly instructing her party to lie and pretend they take no joy in impeachment

 

-Nancy Pelosi is on record numerous times saying she is against impeachment and that it should be a bi partisan effort...and then rams through an impeachment process which is entirely! partisan, except for 3 Democrats. Not to mention public support at an all time low as well.

 

-The entire Democrat house, claims to be acting independently and in line with their constituents, then votes exactly as Nancy tells them.

 

-Chuck Schumer endorses a secretly conducted, half assed, completely manipulated and one sided impeachment investigation in the House, and the asks for a "FAIR" trial in the Senate

 

-Adam Schiff denying involvement with the whisteblower, then it comes out he coached the whistleblower, then later he says he made a mistake, and then later denies even knowing the whistleblower! We dont even need to get into his constant barrage of "smoking guns" that never turned up, along with Russia collusion.

 

-The Democrats took control of the House running on "impeach Trump". Then after gaining office, claimed that wasn't their goal. Then almost immediately started pushing impeachment...with...

 

-ever changing narratives about Russian collision, being in peoples pockets, and all sorts of charges. Bribery, Extortion...and then ultimately settle on???? Obstruction of Congress and abuse of power??? LOL

 

You couldn't orchestrate a better take down and display of wizardry with regards to embarrassing your political opponent and making them do crazy things. You couldn't ask people to inflict more damage than Trump has gotten the Democrats to do to themselves...it is like he has them hypnotized. They've already lost a lot of moderates, and you're seeing the staples of the base now leave as well and it will only get worse. We've already seen the Jews abandoning the party, as well as a shift amongst African Americans. So yea, this is great!

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Honestly, I love it. Trump has single handedly done more to disrupt the corrupt system than probably any person in my lifetime. There were people who not long ago disputed the claim that he was a political genius and king of playing puppet master. However after this, there is no question as he has singlehandedly just destroyed the Democratic Party.

 

 

Couldn't agree more - he's fixing the Republican Party as well - but all in all, dishonest Washington is getting exactly what they deserve.

He's a genius and the people know it - now that he has exposed the DC Swamp forever.

 

 

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Impeachment to me (at this point in time) is a nothingburger (we all know what happened). Predictable what the House did. Also predictable what the Senate will do. It will be very interesting to see how the next act in this drama plays out (the next act being the election in 2020). And it is way too early to call right now (although if i had to put money on it my guess is Trump wins). The key will be what happens in the 7 or 8 swing states.

 

Will the Democrats keep control of the House? Will the Republicans keep control of the Senate?

 

How likely is this scenario: Trump wins Presidency and Dems control the House and the Senate.

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If the Democrats win the Senate and the House - it will mean that the Democrats and Media have won for good.

This country will move from a center/right country to the hard left - and that will be a shame.

 

I do not believe that will happen - after all the dishonesty playing out for the last 3 years. 

The media and the left thinks the American public is stupid and can be bamboozled.

 

We will see.

 

 

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Trump fighting corruption is like Tony Soprano claiming to run a trash business. Between planning Trump towers in Moscow,  porches  creating a “farm” on golf courses, and $50M transactions from letterbox LLC in Chicago and no tax returns... Trump is many things, but he is not clean.

 

As for impeachment, I don’t think it will decide the election either way.

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Can Pelosi just hold the articles of impeachment and let the voters decide on Senators before transmitting them? Is it fair to let a lame duck Senate make this choice?  ;)

If Pelosi holds onto the articles of impeachment for any period of time, it is going to backfire on her (DEMS) bigly.

 

How in the world does she think this is NOT going to be perceived negatively?  Does she think the rest of America is really as stupid as she thinks we are?

 

If she wants to wait a week or so, fine.  If she wants to wait 4-5 months, she's got another thing coming.

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Guest cherzeca

the US constitution grants sole powers to impeach to house, and try to senate.  how that power is exercised in each body is up to the rules each body establishes, and the process each decides to follow.  so the house by hurrying up and then deciding to wait (sort of coitus interruptus) is showing the world that its process is SNAFU/FUBAR. 

 

in my considered view of the constitution (though of course there is no precedent directly on point because the US has thankfully never had such incompetent house members running the impeachment before), the senate is empowered to begin the trial, have a seat for the house impeachment manager to sit in, let it sit empty, and conduct a rather quick and conclusive trial.  but I think senate thinks there is more political hay to be made to string the whole absurd house process out...giving the house more rope so to speak.

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I've changed my mind.  I used to think Schiff, Nadler and Pelosi were incompetent buffoons.  now I think that and that they are malevolent as well. 

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Well, for one, I still haven't really figured out what theyre accusing him of? Negotiating? He held up giving out millions of bucks for A FEW DAYS in return for something? And the folks accusing him of withholding aid do so in the face of all that Trump has done for Ukraine that previous presidents didn't? Odd.

 

Otherwise, yea nothing in my mind has changed. The lefties in office and their supporters hate Trump so much they defend terrorists, root against the economy, and in general spend way too much time just being fake and self righteous about things that on a fundamental level are a complete joke.

 

Like, after seeing their playbook how many times?? over the past decade, we're really now supposed to be impressed and surprised with yet again, another 11th hour, anonymous leak, peddled by some 2nd rate left leaning news outlet, and now "DEMAND" witnesses? And then if we arent convinced, we most certainly should be because CNN of all places decides to blast the words "bombshell" in bold letters all over their website, which, obviously if they say it enough we must be convinced it was a bombshell!! LOL. No, by now I dont think there is anyone stupid enough to not realize, just like with everything else, they orchestrated this weeks ago, held onto it, colluded, and then had it released when convenient, thinking we're all idiots and would now "demand" that these scoundrels get witnesses! Which by the way, THEY were supposed to take care of in the house. Funny, funny stuff.

 

They still rather stick to their nonsensical platitudes than just admit they've been wrong all along. From the meritless cries of racism to the Russia Investigation. It just never ends, as the fellow above notes... in the face of more progress for African Americans, criminal justice reform, women's rights, etc... they still just rather spout off with their labels. Racist, misogynist, blah. blah, blah. Just like with Nadler, Schiff and the rest of the idiots at this point, eventually you no longer need noise canceling headphones, you just automatically tune it out because you've seen both the movie and read the book; and it's garbage...

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The lefties in office and their supporters hate Trump so much they defend terrorists, root against the economy, and in general spend way too much time just being fake and self righteous about things that on a fundamental level are a complete joke.

 

That sums it up nicely. These people are EXACTLY what they accuse others of being.

 

I've never seen a party self destruct like the Democrats. And never seen such a WEAK field of American haters running for President.

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