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https://nypost.com/2019/10/08/anti-trump-fbi-agents-lisa-page-peter-strzok-lied-about-affair-book-claims/

 

Some interesting tidbits... of which, a reminder that during the Clinton email scandal, where was the outrage with regards to Loretta Lynch, the DNC, and the Clinton crew regarding their attempts to kill the investigation? Blatant hypocrisy.

 

"Comey was particularly “troubled” by then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch after he received a report from a “highly placed informant” that suggested Lynch was trying to shut down the investigation."

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Nice article - Loretta Lynch sounds like the bagman for Obama.  Certainly for Hillary Clinton with her "chance" 1000:1 meeting

on the Phoenix tarmac with Bill Clinton - where Lynch met secretly with Bill even as the Justice Department was investigating his wife.

Of course, Lynch figure she would never get caught. Lisa Page, in her testimony, explained that the Justice department

pressured the FBI and told them, as prosecutors - the DOJ would not bring charges regardless of what the FBI found.

 

Talk about a criminal act. Maybe Lisa Page will spill the beans on Lynch role to pressure the FBI to recommend no charges be filed.

Bill Barr should be smart enough to make that deal.

 

Anyway, just more corruption from the Obama Administration.

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Anyway, just more corruption from the Obama Administration.

 

It's funny how Obama is not directly linked to anything that you guys keep putting up...yes, things happened during his administration...they should and some have been investigated.  But none relate directly to Obama...in other words, he's clean!  Clinton...Benghazi, email servers, etc...Biden, his son, etc...Obama, nothing except he's black and intelligent, which I'm presuming offends you!

 

But Trump obstructs justice in plain sight in the media, at the Whitehouse, repeatedly...throws virtually everyone left in his organization from Guiliani, Volker, Pence and even Rick Perry under the bus...but you guys still need to throw shade on Obama!  You literally have the equivalent of John Gotti sitting in the President's chair, and he doesn't give a rat's ass what anyone thinks of him...he would even throw you guys under the bus if you got in his way.  Cheers!

 

 

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There are two main differences between Obama and Trump. Trump made his money through business ventures and Obama got rich milking the role of public servant. Second, Obama never had 1/10th the harassment that Trump does; it was pretty much just Fox News who hated Obama. So you can’t really say “clean” because there’s been an awful lot that stinks come out of that administration, and we re really only starting to find out about it now, as the result of a partisan investigation, in response to a partisan investigation.

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There are two main differences between Obama and Trump. Trump made his money through business ventures and Obama got rich milking the role of public servant. Second, Obama never had 1/10th the harassment that Trump does; it was pretty much just Fox News who hated Obama. So you can’t really say “clean” because there’s been an awful lot that stinks come out of that administration, and we re really only starting to find out about it now, as the result of a partisan investigation, in response to a partisan investigation.

 

Most of the scrutiny and "harassment" is self-made...he's an absolute dick to the media!  He's an asshole to the opposition.  He throws his own people under the bus and without any hesitation at all. 

 

Virtually all of the incivility we see today, has its origins in Trump's attacks during the run for Presidency and his tenure.  He could have prevented all of this by just not being the biggest jerk in politics.  But bullying jerks will always be bullying jerks, and Trump will not change.  Cheers!

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There are two main differences between Obama and Trump. Trump made his money through business ventures and Obama got rich milking the role of public servant. Second, Obama never had 1/10th the harassment that Trump does; it was pretty much just Fox News who hated Obama. So you can’t really say “clean” because there’s been an awful lot that stinks come out of that administration, and we re really only starting to find out about it now, as the result of a partisan investigation, in response to a partisan investigation.

 

Most of the scrutiny and "harassment" is self-made...he's an absolute dick to the media!  He's an asshole to the opposition.  He throws his own people under the bus and without any hesitation at all. 

 

Virtually all of the incivility we see today, has its origins in Trump's attacks during the run for Presidency and his tenure.  He could have prevented all of this by just not being the biggest jerk in politics.  But bullying jerks will always be bullying jerks, and Trump will not change.  Cheers!

 

There is another, simpler explanation:

 

Trump is guilty as charged.

 

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

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“There are two main differences between Obama and Trump. Trump made his money through business ventures and Obama got rich milking the role of public servant.”

 

Trump inherited something like $600,000,000 worth of NY real estate - he darn well should be rich. Says he is worth billions but refuses to show any real proof of his wealth - yes he has real estate - but how much is fully mortgaged (and who holds his mortgages)? And then there are those multiple bankruptcies. Oh yes, and wait until the question comes up about laundering Russian money. Not exactly a self made man.

 

“Second, Obama never had 1/10th the harassment that Trump does; it was pretty much just Fox News who hated Obama. “

 

If Trump would shut his big mouth and stop goading and insulting so many people he would not have a fraction of “harassment” (read criticism) he feels he gets. 

 

It is not rocket science.

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The Left and the Democrats went after Trump from day 1 at the bidding of Obama who approved all the Intelligence agencies to spy on the

Trump campaign. Of course, they found nothing - but freaked out when Trump won the election. Now they can't cover their tracks fast enough

with the investigations Horowitz and Durham.

 

Fortunately, William Barr is no patsy, and will not be intimidated by the Democrats, like Jeff Sessions was..

 

I'm sure they will never get Obama on anything, but enough of his administration will be exposed to destroy Barrack's legacy for good.

 

Funny how you are so adamant for sticking up for a guy that divided the country so much on racial grounds. Barrack took the

message of racial harmony that got so many white voters to elect him .. then turned right around and went back to his

"community organizer" routine - to pit groups against groups in his bid to help Democrats hold onto political power.

 

Barrack Obama singled handedly destroyed the Democratic Party.

 

It took him 8 years - but his destruction of the party is complete with it's official takeover by the radical LEFT.

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I love the Trump inherited a lot of money and oh he could have done better just buying an index or whatever argument. Look at how many people here can’t even hit the broad side of a barn when it comes to investing. Let alone matching an index. Doing what he s done is impressive anyway one cuts it if they are being honest. Sure some could do better, but I guarantee the majority wouldnt have. What

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The Left and the Democrats went after Trump from day 1 at the bidding of Obama who approved all the Intelligence agencies to spy on the

Trump campaign. Of course, they found nothing - but freaked out when Trump won the election. Now they can't cover their tracks fast enough

with the investigations Horowitz and Durham.

 

Fortunately, William Barr is no patsy, and will not be intimidated by the Democrats, like Jeff Sessions was..

 

I'm sure they will never get Obama on anything, but enough of his administration will be exposed to destroy Barrack's legacy for good.

 

Funny how you are so adamant for sticking up for a guy that divided the country so much on racial grounds. Barrack took the

message of racial harmony that got so many white voters to elect him .. then turned right around and went back to his

"community organizer" routine - to pit groups against groups in his bid to help Democrats hold onto political power.

 

Barrack Obama singled handedly destroyed the Democratic Party.

 

It took him 8 years - but his destruction of the party is complete with it's official takeover by the radical LEFT.

 

Obama didn't divide the country...it was Republicans and Democrats, not willing to work together, that ended up dividing the country.  Not to mention the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.  Incidentally, the Democratic Party was never destroyed...it really had to look inwards at trying to find new voices and leadership, which it has continued to struggle to find.

 

Whereas Trump did not want to work with anyone who thought differently.  And Trump actually single-handily did destroy the Republican Party...very much like Trump Taj Mahal, Trump Plaza, Trump Castle, Trump Shuttle and Trump University!  Cheers!

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I love the Trump inherited a lot of money and oh he could have done better just buying an index or whatever argument. Look at how many people here can’t even hit the broad side of a barn when it comes to investing. Let alone matching an index. Doing what he s done is impressive anyway one cuts it if they are being honest. Sure some could do better, but I guarantee the majority wouldnt have. What

 

You think 8% annualized since 1990 is good?  Considering how much leverage he used and how much money he started with...really, be honest, you know it sucks!  This guy is no business wizard with a bigly brain...he's a tax cheat, who created a fantastic brand, and then got lucky that he didn't lose everything with all of the leverage he used.  That's the honest truth...you know that Greg!

Cheers!

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Obama destroyed the party by taking it so far left. Barrack was a charismatic and likable - really, really likable.

People loved Obama, the Media loved Obama -  Barrack was a HISTORIC figure.

Obama could get away with stuff - policy mistakes AND his identity politics.

 

The thing is - NONE of this transfers to ANYONE in the Democratic Party - None of it.

The leading candidates are not likable. Joe Biden is likable - but not radical enough for a party driven to the LEFT by the Progressive movement.

 

What worked for Obama will not work for these candidates - therefore the party is toast.

 

Their best chance of getting control is impeachment.

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I love the Trump inherited a lot of money and oh he could have done better just buying an index or whatever argument. Look at how many people here can’t even hit the broad side of a barn when it comes to investing. Let alone matching an index. Doing what he s done is impressive anyway one cuts it if they are being honest. Sure some could do better, but I guarantee the majority wouldnt have. What

 

You think 8% annualized since 1990 is good?  Considering how much leverage he used and how much money he started with...really, be honest, you know it sucks!  This guy is no business wizard with a bigly brain...he's a tax cheat, who created a fantastic brand, and then got lucky that he didn't lose everything with all of the leverage he used.  That's the honest truth...you know that Greg!

Cheers!

 

I don’t think it is great...but it’s not like most make it out to be when they casually blow it off. You’ve seen with PDH this happens to be the case, no? He turned a million from dad in the 60s into a few billion. Hardly a “any idiot could have done that” scenario.

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Obama destroyed the party by taking it so far left. Barrack was a charismatic and likable - really, really likable.

People loved Obama, the Media loved Obama -  Barrack was a HISTORIC figure.

Obama could get away with stuff - policy mistakes AND his identity politics.

 

The thing is - NONE of this transfers to ANYONE in the Democratic Party - None of it.

The leading candidates are not likable. Joe Biden is likable - but not radical enough for a party driven to the LEFT by the Progressive movement.

 

What worked for Obama will not work for these candidates - therefore the party is toast.

 

Their best chance of getting control is impeachment.

 

Like Biden presently, Obama wasn't anywhere near the left...he was actually more of a centrist in terms of economic policy, monetary policy, national security and even immigration, as more illegal immigrants were returned under his watch than any other until Trump.  Many of Obama's actions, other than Obamacare, were in line with George W. Bush's policies.  It's Trump who has gone not only completely off the Republican playbook, but off the rails altogether. 

 

Everyone likes to put the blame on Obama, but alot of it had to do with the same problems Dubya and Trump also face...Congress and Senate that have opposing views and opposing control.  Cheers!

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“William Barr is no patsy,”

But that is EXACTLY what he is, Trump’s personal Patsy. How many times has Trump shown he won’t have anyone working for him that he feels isn’t 100% loyal to him personally.

 

“... destroy Barrack's legacy for good”

What is with this obsession with Obama? Let it go, it is the past. How about concentrating on the future?

 

“Funny how you are so adamant for sticking up for a guy that divided the country so much on racial grounds.”

Not sure if this is directed at me but I am not, nor have I been sticking up for anyone. Again, time to move on.

 

“I love the Trump inherited a lot of money and oh he could have done better just buying an index or whatever argument.”

Well you have to admit that no one really has any idea as to how much he really has and how much he doesn’t. And as far as real estate is concerned, from my personal experience all I can say is that real estate is a far, far easier way to make money than investing on the markets. If you inherited six hundred million in NY real estate in the ‘70s and weren’t a multi billionaire by now you would have to be pretty dumb.

 

“He turned a million from dad in the 60s into a few billion.”

A million???  You really, really need to check your facts

 

“Obama didn't divide the country.”

Yes, the country was divided long before Obama.

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I love the Trump inherited a lot of money and oh he could have done better just buying an index or whatever argument. Look at how many people here can’t even hit the broad side of a barn when it comes to investing. Let alone matching an index. Doing what he s done is impressive anyway one cuts it if they are being honest. Sure some could do better, but I guarantee the majority wouldnt have. What

 

You think 8% annualized since 1990 is good?  Considering how much leverage he used and how much money he started with...really, be honest, you know it sucks!  This guy is no business wizard with a bigly brain...he's a tax cheat, who created a fantastic brand, and then got lucky that he didn't lose everything with all of the leverage he used.  That's the honest truth...you know that Greg!

Cheers!

 

I don’t think it is great...but it’s not like most make it out to be when they casually blow it off. You’ve seen with PDH this happens to be the case, no? He turned a million from dad in the 60s into a few billion. Hardly a “any idiot could have done that” scenario.

 

It wasn't a million...more like $1M in 1960, then financings/loans/investment partners/political contacts, then $20M, more financings from his father, loans, etc, then $100M.  That's a hell of a start and support system.  Plus all of the tax evasion, non-payment of bills, bankruptcies, collections and offshore accounts.  Cheers!

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It wasn't a million...more like $1M in 1960, then financings/loans/investment partners/political contacts, then $20M, more financings from his father, loans, etc, then $100M.  That's a hell of a start and support system.  Plus all of the tax evasion, non-payment of bills, bankruptcies, collections and offshore accounts.  Cheers!

Don't forget to adjust for inflation. $1 million becomes more like $9 million today. I wish someone would would give a small gift of $9 million dollars.

 

And don't forget, the non-payment continues. He was probably just joking about not paying his bills, though.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/08/trump-rallies-unpaid-bills-039631

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LOL, ok inflation adjusted it was $9 million... I guess like 75% of the people on this board will be billionaires in 30-40 years or so...no biggie

 

Sanjeev should we all be so harsh on you when PDH or one of its subsidiaries files? Or should we understand how business management works?

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Greg, you aren't comparing like with like. For example, has PDH been operating for 50 years for which you can compare to Trump's empire? No, it has not.

 

On Trump's "business acumen": He bankrupted a CASINO. You have to be a special kind of crook or idiot to screw up a literal money mint.

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One million? More like $400-$600 million.

 

"The president has long sold himself as a self-made billionaire, but a Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s."

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html

 

Before Trump fans try to refute this, perhaps they can explain what happened to Fred Trump's wealth? I doubt it was donated to charity.

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“William Barr is no patsy,”

But that is EXACTLY what he is, Trump’s personal Patsy. How many times has Trump shown he won’t have anyone working for him that he feels isn’t 100% loyal to him personally.

 

“... destroy Barrack's legacy for good”

What is with this obsession with Obama? Let it go, it is the past. How about concentrating on the future?

 

 

That you do not want to see the breathtaking amount of corruption that was the Obama Administration is your problem not mine.

 

You've already seen McCabe, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Rice, Lynch, Powers, Biden - all proven liars.

Many have already been disgraced - more are coming.

 

You are seeing Chicago politics in action brought to Washington, DC. - influence peddling and "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours".

 

Bill Barr will do his best to expose it - and Americans are going to be horrified how they were hoodwinked by phony hoaxes and coup attempts, while the media let it happen.

The corruption is widespread among the CIA, DOJ, FBI, State Department - and it will be a great thing to expose all of it.

 

I liked Obama a lot when he was elected - but he ran the Federal Gov like the City of Chicago - where Democrats have been in power for 60

years - and corruption is rampant, but rarely called out. Unfortunately, with a change to Republican administration - the corruption won't be buried.

 

Too bad for you and Barrack.

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“LOL, ok inflation adjusted it was $9 million... I guess like 75% of the people on this board will be billionaires in 30-40 years or so...no biggie”

 

Check your facts. The amount was more like $400 million. Where do you think all Fred Trump’s money went? It just evaporated?

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-10-03/trump-even-inherited-his-father-s-self-made-myth

 

“Sanjeev should we all be so harsh on you when PDH or one of its subsidiaries files? Or should we understand how business management works?”

 

When you have to back your argument with cheap shots like that it does little for your credibility. But then again, seeing who you choose as a leader I guess it is to be expected.

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“LOL, ok inflation adjusted it was $9 million... I guess like 75% of the people on this board will be billionaires in 30-40 years or so...no biggie”

 

Check your facts. The amount was more like $400 million. Where do you think all Fred Trump’s money went? It just evaporated?

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-10-03/trump-even-inherited-his-father-s-self-made-myth

 

“Sanjeev should we all be so harsh on you when PDH or one of its subsidiaries files? Or should we understand how business management works?”

 

When you have to back your argument with cheap shots like that it does little for your credibility. But then again, seeing who you choose as a leader I guess it is to be expected.

 

Its hardly a cheap shot at all. Its an acknowledgement that running businesses and producing returns is hard. And that the dorks with the thick framed glasses and 100 tab Excel sheets continuously miss the mark by throwing out these wanton claims of how easy it would be to consistently put out market equivalent returns....Thats all. Ive stated plenty of times I have a great deal of respect for Sanjeev and know him to be a capable operator. So dont miss the forest for the trees with my remark. Producing future returns is significantly harder than just half assing what past return could have been. Sometimes throwing a turd business into bankruptcy is the right move. So I'm not quite sure how "he's bankrupted companies" is anything more than a bullshit, biased, and lazy attempt to reach a not so informed conclusion. Same thing with working the tax code...Even at the very least, this shows somebody who is smart enough to maximize the usefulness of the resources they have at their disposal....

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Okay. Point taken re Sanjeev. But there are lots of other examples you could have used to make your case.

 

But when it comes to bankruptcies and business practices, just because there are legal loopholes and legal technicalities, there is a very fine lines between that what is ethical and what is not. 

 

So now where did all Fred Trump’s money go if all Donald got was one million?

 

Did you happen to take a look at the article...

 

"Trump Even Inherited His Self-Made Myth

His wealth had everything to do with his father, including the fable of how it happened."

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-10-03/trump-even-inherited-his-father-s-self-made-myth

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