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Burisma Biden taking down the only real chance Dems had in 2020:

 

Left-wing Washington Post says:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-hunter-biden-walks-out-of-china-with-15-billion-a-lawyer-says-thats-not-true/2019/09/25/26b89e7e-dfcf-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

 

"Hunter Biden did travel with his father on Air Force Two to China on Dec. 4, 2013.

 

Twelve days later, Hunter Biden joined the board of a just-formed investment advisory firm, known as BHR, whose partners included Chinese entities. "

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I want to see Hunter Biden's tax returns. Must be a very rich guy by now. BHR is a multi-billion dollar firm. Media is batshit crazy for NOT covering this.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BHR_Partners

 

"In November, 2016, BHR agreed to purchase Lundin Mining Corp's minority stake in African copper mine Tenke Fungurume Mining S.A. for $1.14 billion in cash. The Democratic Republic of the Congo, where the Tenke mine is located, owns the remaining 20% of the mine."

 

Rosemont Seneca is a Washington, D.C.-based investment and advisory firm run by Hunter Biden, the son of U.S. Vice President Joe Biden. Thornton Group is a Boston-based cross-border investment advisory firm. The U.S. partners as a pair and the two Chinese partners each own a 30% stake in the joint management firm.[3]

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Looks like the "R" in the multi-billion BHR stands for Rosemont Seneca - the lobbying firm run by Biden.

 

Any of the posters on CoBF own a stake in a multi-billion dollar investment firm?

 

Hey, I don't like Trump, but I'm all for investigating Biden and his son to ensure nothing improper happened.  If they committed a crime, they should serve the time!  Cheers!

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"Hey, I don't like Trump, but I'm all for investigating Biden and his son to ensure nothing improper happened."

 

Come on! They never get investigated fully. We have some inquiry then it dies off.

 

Giustra lives in your city and how do you think that the deal with Uranium One happened? The guy even said that he went all-in on Bill Clinton.

 

How is it possible that Bill Clinton gets out of the White House broke (per his wife), then ends up worth $100 million a decade or so after? He is not running a hedge fund, didn't start any business. All he did was selling books and being paid for giving conferences. Who in the world would pay $5,000+ to simply listen to his speeches? Then he started a shady charitable fund but, you don't own the money in a charitable fund so it is not part of the $100 million. All the while had an expensive lifestyle.

 

If anyone can seriously think that these people did not use their influence to make some deals happen and get richly paid in the process then they ought to be examined or they have no idea how one can save/make such sum of money.

 

It is the same with this Biden guy. He will never get indicted. Best lawyers will be hired and it will die off.

 

It is also the same with Gerald Butts in Canada. The guy never started a business, was managing wildlife organization and always had jobs paying sub $300,000. Then in his forties he is worth over $25 million. Must be an incredible saver and investor!

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It's hard to improperly use influence when you are out of office. Should former government official be a career? No one likes it (what do you think all the complaints about 'revolving door' are about?) but what can we do? It's obviously legal. I guarantee Trump and his family will do it after office. The point is not that it's bad for Trump to do it, but that we should judge people consistently.

 

The message from Uranium One and the like is not that it was on the up-and-up. It's that there was no provable improper influence in office, or quid pro quo. There were formal, informal, and amateur investigations in to all sorts of Democrat scandals. Plenty of Democrats have been indicted or have pled guilty over the years, including during Obama's terms. The issue with Clinton's emails was the precedents set during Gen. Petraeus's case (which has been mentioned ad nauseum on this board). No one was happy with the result, but we are a nation that uses common law. We could pass stricter laws on the topic, but it's going to result in a lot of indictments for behavior we aren't trying to correct as a society.

 

 

Some federal office-holding D's indicted/convicted recently:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrine_Brown

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaka_Fattah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Jackson_Jr.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Richardson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Jefferson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Traficant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Ballance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Sanders

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes

 

 

No one thinks what Biden's son did is good. Try to come up with a constitutional and fair law to prevent it and you'll find out it's a trickier subject than your surface reading suggests. With most topics that bother you that seem bafflingly unaddressed, try to write a law or laws to prevent it. You'll see why there isn't a law already. Writing rules for very large systems is exceedingly difficult.

 

I don't understand why there often seems to be a disconnect between narrative behind complaints and actual facts.

 

"Democrats are never held accountable!" -> Democrats and Republican Congressmen are generally indicted at the same frequency and proportion. It's also generally uncorrelated to which party is in power.

"How did [X] earn this money!" - Same as anyone, assuming there isn't financial theft/fraud involved. Someone paid them. It's crazy Rush Limbaugh makes $80m+/yr. A former President's speaking or media deals seem less crazy from that POV.

 

 

This is similar to Trump delisting Chinese companies/restricting flows. Everyone here was quick to freak out but then the conversation was over once the situation was realized. No one actually wants to debate merits of topics, they want to complain. That's why the non-investigation threads are pointless in my view. 10 mins of research would often alleviate a lot of rants.

 

I miss when the political debates on this forum were about the level of taxes or type of tax system. I learned more from Tim Erickson and some others in some post 4 years ago or so about taxes than all of the political posts since. I think we disagreed then, but it was really interesting hearing nuanced opinions on the best way to tax corporations. I bet if I found the post, I've adopted a lot of their ideas since. That type of discussion is valuable.

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See this is the main difference between the Trump family and the rest. Theres been points raised about "oh you think Ivanka gets deals in Chinese for reasons other than her dad?". Yes, its different. Perhaps today and going forward it will be the same, but for the past however long, the Trump family has gotten rich because of their own assets and businesses and hustling them(to whatever degree and whether legal or not is another debate). But the Bidens, Clintons, Obamas, etc, ALL got rich exploiting, milking, and because of their jobs as "public servants" and engaging in quasi if not outright pay for play and quid pro quo bullshit. They've basically enriched themselves from politics. Which is why its rich when these very people make these accusations about Trump. Where is everyone who's cried about Trump/Russia and why arent they outraged and obsessing over how China has Biden in their backpocket. How Joe is China's puppet? Its basically ignored minus a few non promoted pieces here or there and even then, still only by Fox News or a couple really radical left wing pulpits trying to push for a more extreme socialist candidate?

 

Or how people(cough Sanjeev) say, I'd have a problem too if it were Obama but we're not talking about him right now, he's not president at the moment. Which is bullshit because guess what? The treatment is TOTALLY different. No one has ever been treated as poorly as Trump. There was never, ever, this level of ridiculousness around Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc. Fuck, Hillary Clinton, despite being a total pariah, is STILL currently quoted as if she's someone important and pure! They said they'd have the same issues if it was someone else other than Trump, but their actions HAVE NEVER been consistent with that and I'm sure if a Democrat gets elected in 2020 there no where near the same rhetoric and constant harping on every little thing that person does. Sometimes its just time to call BULLSHIT...

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Hunter Biden is on a whole different level. The left-wing New York Times has been publishing articles about his activities (excerpts from the New York Times articles linked below):

 

May 20, 2019 article

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/20/us/politics/trump-hunter-biden-china.html

"Hunter Biden advised a Romanian businessman with ties to the United States, Gabriel Popoviciu, whose real estate dealings had come under investigation,...which has not been previously reported. The investigation, which came as the United States and its allies were pushing Romania to clamp down on corruption, led to Mr. Popoviciu's conviction and a prison sentence."

 

 

 

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It was very convenient for President Obama to look the other way while Biden and Hillary ate from the pork barrel that is DC.

 

Of course, Obama, knew there would never be a problem as Hillary was a slam dunk 2016 President-elect and the feast could continue.

 

Trump rained on a lot of parades. Now everyone is scrambling to avoid being exposed as corrupt.

 

Better impeach Trump quick so they can call off the dogs before the voters figure it out.

 

I can't wait to see the Horowitz and Durham reports.  William Barr will be a busy guy.

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Another Hunter Biden story from the left-wing New York Times. Criminal tycoon, bribery of African officials, evading sanctions, $2 million cash boxes, etc.

 

December 2018 NYT article:

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/business/cefc-biden-china-washington-ye-jianming.html

 

"Last year, as American authorities closed in on Mr. Ye's company, the first call made by one of his emissaries in custody was to Mr. Biden's brother.

 

Mr. Ye told Fortune magazine that he got his break in 2006, when he acquired assets the government had confiscated from a smuggling kingpin. He rebranded the business as CEFC China Energy. ... operated on the fringes of the oil world... securing the rights to oil fields in strife-torn places like Chad, South Sudan and Iraq.

 

By 2015, Mr. Ye had begin working on .... quarry yet: the family of Mr. Biden, the vice president.

 

..Mr. Ye then met privately with Hunter Biden at a hotel in Miami in May 2017...Mr. Ye propposed a partnership to invest in American infrastructure and energy deals, the people said. It is unclear whether Hunter Biden struck and business deals with CEFC or Mr. Ye. Through his attorney, Hunter Biden declined to comment.

James Biden, a financier and brother of the former vice president, was in a hotel lobby in November 2017 when he got a surprise call on his cellphone. The call was from Patrick Ho, Mr. Ye's lieutenant. Mr. Ho, 69, was in trouble.

 

Federal agents who had monitored CEFC's rise...arresting Mr. Ho on allegations that he had bribed African officials in Chad and Uganda.

 

federal prosecutors said that he bribed... tried to make CEFC a middleman with Iran to avoid oil sanctions.... attempting to deal arms in conflict zones.

 

In Chad in 2014, the bribery took the form of gift boxes containing $2million in cash...

Mr. Ye meanwhile has disappeared into the custody of the Chinese authorities... accused Mr. Ye of bribing a provincial party boss...

 

In a brief interview, James Biden said he had been surprised by Mr. Ho's call. He said he believed it had been meant for Hunter Biden... James Biden said he had passed on his nephew's contact information."

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Again, what specific crime is Hunter alleged to have committed? I have not done any type of research in to Hunter, but I have yet to see what crime he would be investigated for. What did Hunter actually do, other than working for sketchy people? If hanging out with sketchy people is the basis for investigation then that behavior is so common that you can see what our government has to pick and choose who to actually investigate. We generally prioritize it by importance of the person.

 

I feel like you aren't reading what others are writing when you don't like what it says, that you've only done surface-level research, and you just want to argue. Until you are willing to have two-way communication, this discussion is pointless. Continue your yelling in to the abyss.

 

 

I'd also like to point out that you are quoting NYT's extension investigation in to a Democrat candidate, during the Trump term. I hope the vitriol hate of media dies down when all of this is done.

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Can't blame Trump for asking Ukraine to investigate.

 

The US kept giving a free pass to the numerous associations of Hunter Biden with corrupt foreign businessmen.

 

The left-wing New York Times kept publishing articles but the US kept giving Hunter Biden a free pass for his business dealings with criminal tycoons.

 

What else could Trump do? If Obama had died, Biden would have been the president!

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See this is the main difference between the Trump family and the rest. Theres been points raised about "oh you think Ivanka gets deals in Chinese for reasons other than her dad?". Yes, its different. Perhaps today and going forward it will be the same, but for the past however long, the Trump family has gotten rich because of their own assets and businesses and hustling them(to whatever degree and whether legal or not is another debate). But the Bidens, Clintons, Obamas, etc, ALL got rich exploiting, milking, and because of their jobs as "public servants" and engaging in quasi if not outright pay for play and quid pro quo bullshit. They've basically enriched themselves from politics. Which is why its rich when these very people make these accusations about Trump. Where is everyone who's cried about Trump/Russia and why arent they outraged and obsessing over how China has Biden in their backpocket. How Joe is China's puppet? Its basically ignored minus a few non promoted pieces here or there and even then, still only by Fox News or a couple really radical left wing pulpits trying to push for a more extreme socialist candidate?

 

 

It sucks that it's hard to write laws to avoid this shit, which is how it happens. The ones indicted are the ones engaging in it personally. It's hard to connect the hiring of a family member with corruption, legally. We all know it when we see it, but what is the remedy? Corruption sucks and hopefully there is a resurgence of anti-corruption voting again.

 

The reason no one is obsessing over Biden/China is because most of Congress is engaging in some form of pseudo-lobbying. His story is being told now because he's running for President. Hopefully a focus on anti-corruption can change the trend. Your take is the only reasonable contra take on the topic I've seen so far.

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Can't blame Trump for asking Ukraine to investigate.

 

What else could Trump do? If Obama had died, Biden would have been the president!

 

You can't use political power or tax payer money to bribe officials for personal gain. Full stop. If it was not for personal gain, it would not be bribery and you would be right. The fact that Trump and his personal lawyer said while committing the act that it was for personal gain really makes it difficult to argue otherwise. We should be happy that Trump was so brazenly corrupt that it may actually convince the broader public there is a major corruption problem (a la Greg's post).

 

Your last statement makes no sense. Trump cannot feign concern as the reason his crime was not criminal when the security risk is already alleviated. Corruption is bad, always.

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The biggest bribery is done by Evasive Elizabeth. She throws more bribes at more people to "surge" in the polls.

 

Bribe retirees who spend all day sitting in restaurants...

 

Bribe college students who wasted other-people's-money (partying) acquiring useless majors that have no commercial value.

 

If you are working, snatch another 15% from $250k incomes in high-cost states where the marginal rate is already 54%.

 

 

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See this is the main difference between the Trump family and the rest. Theres been points raised about "oh you think Ivanka gets deals in Chinese for reasons other than her dad?". Yes, its different. Perhaps today and going forward it will be the same, but for the past however long, the Trump family has gotten rich because of their own assets and businesses and hustling them(to whatever degree and whether legal or not is another debate). But the Bidens, Clintons, Obamas, etc, ALL got rich exploiting, milking, and because of their jobs as "public servants" and engaging in quasi if not outright pay for play and quid pro quo bullshit. They've basically enriched themselves from politics. Which is why its rich when these very people make these accusations about Trump. Where is everyone who's cried about Trump/Russia and why arent they outraged and obsessing over how China has Biden in their backpocket. How Joe is China's puppet? Its basically ignored minus a few non promoted pieces here or there and even then, still only by Fox News or a couple really radical left wing pulpits trying to push for a more extreme socialist candidate?

 

 

 

It sucks that it's hard to write laws to avoid this shit, which is how it happens. The ones indicted are the ones engaging in it personally. It's hard to connect the hiring of a family member with corruption, legally. We all know it when we see it, but what is the remedy? Corruption sucks and hopefully there is a resurgence of anti-corruption voting again.

 

The reason no one is obsessing over Biden/China is because most of Congress is engaging in some form of pseudo-lobbying. His story is being told now because he's running for President. Hopefully a focus on anti-corruption can change the trend. Your take is the only reasonable contra take on the topic I've seen so far.

 

I mean there's solutions, but nothing that these people would ever adopt because they are the only ones who lose a benefit/suffer. But in theory... here's a few ideas.

 

Establish guidelines for service. Anyone assuming office must declare a personal statement of assets. This is your "threshold". From that point forward a person is entitled to "earn" up to "$x". Say $5M. If you go into politics with a $5K net worth, ala AOC, upon leaving politics, you agree to give away any money you earn after accumulating a $5M net worth. Or hey, paying a 75% "wealth tax" after a certain point. The counter would be that this discourages people from entering, but 1, that's good, and two, please lets not pretend that the benefits for life that many of these clowns get don't prohibit them from living lavishly on their own. But this would keep people form entering politics just to get rich, it would limit the benefits of those from selling their "connections" after; ie your only benefit is lying about your net worth and committing fraud which greatly diminishes the benefits and likely sways a lot of folks to just stick with their already pretty damn good life.

 

Of course you would still have work arounds, but this could be handled by signing the same disclosures signed by many professional industries regarding ones disclosure of "affiliates". The stuff that prevents the wife of a public company CEO from buying stock without disclosing ownership...

 

But again, this shit isn't happening because these people will do utterly despicable things, as we are seeing with the constant Trump coups, to preserve their "niche"...

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"Hey, I don't like Trump, but I'm all for investigating Biden and his son to ensure nothing improper happened."

 

Come on! They never get investigated fully. We have some inquiry then it dies off.

 

Giustra lives in your city and how do you think that the deal with Uranium One happened? The guy even said that he went all-in on Bill Clinton.

 

How is it possible that Bill Clinton gets out of the White House broke (per his wife), then ends up worth $100 million a decade or so after? He is not running a hedge fund, didn't start any business. All he did was selling books and being paid for giving conferences. Who in the world would pay $5,000+ to simply listen to his speeches? Then he started a shady charitable fund but, you don't own the money in a charitable fund so it is not part of the $100 million. All the while had an expensive lifestyle.

 

If anyone can seriously think that these people did not use their influence to make some deals happen and get richly paid in the process then they ought to be examined or they have no idea how one can save/make such sum of money.

 

It is the same with this Biden guy. He will never get indicted. Best lawyers will be hired and it will die off.

 

It is also the same with Gerald Butts in Canada. The guy never started a business, was managing wildlife organization and always had jobs paying sub $300,000. Then in his forties he is worth over $25 million. Must be an incredible saver and investor!

 

How is it that Trump gets away with stuff far worse...like the women he's molested over the years?  Deustche Bank dealings to save his son-in-law's skin?  Collusion...evidence was there, but Mueller just didn't want to make the call?  Running of the Trump empire from office?  All of the self-dealing with Trump enterprises while in office?  And now, we've got Trump colluding to take down his competition and his son, because he knows that is the guy with the best chance to beat him? 

 

So you talk about how Guistra and Clinton got away...Trump gets away with it while sitting in the President's seat!  Cheers!

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Can't blame Trump for asking Ukraine to investigate.

 

The US kept giving a free pass to the numerous associations of Hunter Biden with corrupt foreign businessmen.

 

The left-wing New York Times kept publishing articles but the US kept giving Hunter Biden a free pass for his business dealings with criminal tycoons.

 

What else could Trump do? If Obama had died, Biden would have been the president!

 

Trump could have asked Barr to investigate...which is legal and is his own guy.  Instead he chose to leverage the pressure and relationship with Ukraine...which is illegal!  The Biden's should be investigated, but not the way Trump did it.  Any other President would get the same treatment in the same circumstance.  Trump's team then moved to cover up the whole thing...how can anyone in their right mind defend that?  Or sorry, Cubsfan...Cardboard...my bad!  Cheers!

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"How is it that Trump gets away with stuff far worse...like the women he's molested over the years?  Deustche Bank dealings to save his son-in-law's skin?  Collusion...evidence was there, but Mueller just didn't want to make the call?  Running of the Trump empire from office?  All of the self-dealing with Trump enterprises while in office?  And now, we've got Trump colluding to take down his competition and his son, because he knows that is the guy with the best chance to beat him?

 

So you talk about how Guistra and Clinton got away...Trump gets away with it while sitting in the President's seat!  Cheers!"

 

Clinton got away with rape (while in office in Arkansas). This is a whole lot worst than someone who brag about grabbing woman by the p.. while joking with a reporter. Is this true?

 

He also played sex games with an employee/intern in the Oval office.

 

Please explain to me how is that not worst than whatever Trump has done on the sexual front?

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The guy that Hunter Biden worked for gave a $150,000 donation to the Trump Foundation during the 2016 campaign that's under active investigation (as a spin-off from Mueller).

 

Trump provided Ukraine with last minute weapons just prior to Ukraine no long cooperating with the Mueller investigation.

 

Trump Jr and the Trump Org have completed nearly a dozen deals with foreign countries, including some while running for President.

 

Trump and his kids have all actually done the things, without protest, that Biden's son is inferred to have done. Everyone in this thread defended Trump and his kids (or ignored it) at the time.

 

When all of these incidents occurred, members in this thread defended Trump and said folks that said it was wrong had "TDS" or the like. Now, Biden is losing support of his own party for those allegations while Trump is stating that a Congressmen is committing treason for investigating, he is threatening his whistleblower, and alluding to civil war if he is removed. We haven't even gotten to Trump's tax fraud and engaging in, or at least facilitating, money laundering.

 

This isn't about Biden, or the Democrats, or policy, or "a fight for America's culture", or anything else. You were lied to and accepting you were fooled is difficult. I'm sorry folks were misled by Trump and others, but what Trump is doing is wrong. It's plain as day. As Footnotes said, I hope the R party moves on quickly so we can have a decent election.

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"You were lied to and accepting you were fooled is difficult. I'm sorry folks were misled by Trump and others, but what Trump is doing is wrong. It's plain as day."

 

He was elected, delivered on his promises so I would say that people got exactly what they asked for. That is what is plain as day, not your theories and determining who is behaving worst and what not.

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The meme that Trump has delivered on promises is a prime example of being fooled.

 

Term limits = no

Campaign finance reform = no

Healthcare = no

Drain the swamp = See last post and my post history for no

Reform Fannie/Freddie = no

Reform education = no

Re-do NAFTA = USMCA is unsigned and essentially the same agreement

Immigration reform = no

Wall = it was rebuilt in areas, but generally no

Iran nuclear deal = Signed deal that is weaker than the Obama deal

North Korea nuclear deal = NK is still testing long-range missles and nukes

Lower deficit = no

 

 

Taxes lower = for now, for some. Wait til 2021 when the first major sunsets hit and you'll see the tax bill was quite political and not for the middle class

Trade war with China = Yes (though we were promised it would be quick and easy)

 

 

Not a lot has happened in almost 3 years. If you actually followed US politics half as much as you pretend, you'd know Congress does nothing. Even when R's controlled it, the agenda was generally limited to confirmations. That's fine, but the narrative doesn't square with the facts. There's going to be all sorts of excuses in response. Democrats and McCain and blah, but the point of all those excuses is that not much has changed.

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Poor Schwab, you have spent nearly 3 years of your life banging your head against the wall.

 

You kept posting endlessly about this Mueller report which amounted to... nothing. No indictment, no prosecution, no impeachment.

 

Now, you think that ha! ha! I have found it, thanks to Nancy Pelosi. LOL!

 

So we will see if you have been fooled... again?

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Pretty funny Schwab about how you just make stuff up on the fly.

 

Still can't get over that 2016 election result - can you now?  Just can't accept it....we do call that "sore loser" & "sorry boys, you'll get your shot at the next election"....

 

So looks like impeachment is your only option now, as your Democratic candidates continue to go farther left and blow themselves up...

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The meme that Trump has delivered on promises is a prime example of being fooled.

 

Term limits = no

Campaign finance reform = no

Healthcare = no

Drain the swamp = See last post and my post history for no

Reform Fannie/Freddie = no

Reform education = no

Re-do NAFTA = USMCA is unsigned and essentially the same agreement

Immigration reform = no

Wall = it was rebuilt in areas, but generally no

Iran nuclear deal = Signed deal that is weaker than the Obama deal

North Korea nuclear deal = NK is still testing long-range missles and nukes

Lower deficit = no

 

 

Taxes lower = for now, for some. Wait til 2021 when the first major sunsets hit and you'll see the tax bill was quite political and not for the middle class

Trade war with China = Yes (though we were promised it would be quick and easy)

 

 

Not a lot has happened in almost 3 years. If you actually followed US politics half as much as you pretend, you'd know Congress does nothing. Even when R's controlled it, the agenda was generally limited to confirmations. That's fine, but the narrative doesn't square with the facts. There's going to be all sorts of excuses in response. Democrats and McCain and blah, but the point of all those excuses is that not much has changed.

 

Wow. Thank you for putting together a list Schwab. It's great to see someone actually put in a little effort and act like an analyst and actually present data.

 

I would have expected that Trump's record was much better than what Schwab has presented. Can anyone argue with facts and lists that Trump has accomplished more? I would personally add that as of this morning, there is the first tiny little bit of progress showng on GSE reform, but it's really just the first green shoot of progress.

 

Here's Politifact's list that quantifies progress on Trump's promises. It was my attempt to disprove Schwab's list. It looks like the Politifact list is slightly more flattering, but still quite dismal. There are many promises on the Politifact that I am very disappointed have not been kept.

 

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/browse/?page=2

 

Trump also seems to have done a good bit of flip-flopping, most all of which were not the type that would anger his base the most, but are still substantial flip flops:

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/president-trumps-first-100-days/here-are-new-policy-stances-donald-trump-has-taken-election-n684946

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