Castanza Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just when you think things can't get any funnier. The poster child of "what an inclusive leader looks like" BUSTED! edit: For the record I think it's ridiculous that this is even an issue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 The most entertaining part is trying to figure out why he is holding a press conference on an empty airplane? ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stahleyp Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 If this had happen to a conservative, the left would be very upset and asking for a resignation. He's been around for a long time. How did this just now get "discovered?" So much for all of these news reporters digging deep. He looks a little too friendly with his hand in that one picture. Remember this? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/07/02/justin-trudeau-responds-to-groping-allegations-i-dont-remember-any-negative-interactions/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 He should step down as Prime Minister. Young, stupid, but if it was anyone else, he would be crying for their head...step down and put someone else in the seat as interim leader. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 He should step down as Prime Minister. Young, stupid, but if it was anyone else, he would be crying for their head...step down and put someone else in the seat as interim leader. Cheers! He definitely aint this guy! https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2019/09/donald-trump-pocket-cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spekulatius Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Kind of ridiculous, but is wearing a dark makeup for an Aladdin role play actually racism? It frankly never occurred to me. As kids, we played “Cowboys vs Indian” and it was cool to get some face paint if you were in the Indian group. I guess I am glad there were no digital cameras around back then. It nobody occurred anyone back then that this was racism, or were there any native Indians in Germany where I lived. I don’t know about color, but skins have definitely gotten thinner over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliG Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Kind of ridiculous, but is wearing a dark makeup for an Aladdin role play actually racism? It frankly never occurred to me. As kids, we played “Cowboys vs Indian” and it was cool to get some face paint if you were in the Indian group. I guess I am glad there were no digital cameras around back then. It nobody occurred anyone back then that this was racism, or were there any native Indians in Germany where I lived. I don’t know about color, but skins have definitely gotten thinner over the years. He wore blackface on several other occasions that were not a costume party. There is a video of him wearing blackface, a t-shirt with a picture of bananas, waving his arms / moving his hips like an ape. When asked, he said he couldn't remember how many times he did it. Apparently it was a regular shtick for him. You have to understand that this guy is THE master of identity politics. He built his entire political career on sanctimony and over the top political correctness. Trudeau in blackface is like a pro-lifer getting an abortion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwericb Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I am definitely not a Trudeau fan, but really... What has a costume that someone wore at a costume party 20 years ago have to do with their ability to handle the position of prime minister today? I personally don’t think he’s done a great job, but I certainly don’t think it is because he dressed up as Aladidin in 2001 or wore similar other costumes. I dressed up as a woman at a Halloween party 30 years ago, have I insulted all women? What about the women who dressed up as men? Should one dress up as an astronaut will astronauts take it personally? Good Lord, where does this stop? Like Spekulatius, when I was a kid we also dressed up as cowboys and Indians. Will I ever be forgiven for that and does that preclude me from ever holding public office? I apologize to our Indigenous people if that was insensitive, but if we are delving into ancient history, several of my ancestors were raped, scalped, murdered and kidnapped for ransom by your ancestors and I certainly don’t hold that against you. Who here has not done dumb things during our lifetime? Does there ever come a time when we “forgive and forget”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Kind of ridiculous, but is wearing a dark makeup for an Aladdin role play actually racism? It frankly never occurred to me. As kids, we played “Cowboys vs Indian” and it was cool to get some face paint if you were in the Indian group. I guess I am glad there were no digital cameras around back then. It nobody occurred anyone back then that this was racism, or were there any native Indians in Germany where I lived. I don’t know about color, but skins have definitely gotten thinner over the years. He wore blackface on several other occasions that were not a costume party. There is a video of him wearing blackface, a t-shirt with a picture of bananas, waving his arms / moving his hips like an ape. When asked, he said he couldn't remember how many times he did it. Apparently it was a regular shtick for him. You have to understand that this guy is THE master of identity politics. He built his entire political career on sanctimony and over the top political correctness. Trudeau in blackface is like a pro-lifer getting an abortion. This isn't anything new and in fact par for the course for the left. They don't actually believe half the shit they propose...they just know there are enough idiots out there to make a career for themselves. Just like Al Gore preaching climate change from his jumbo jet. See people look at Trump and have all this rage because he openly boasts about doing things that can be brazen. Yet these same people complaining are impervious to the fact that their heroes do the same stuff they just hide it better and have the media covering things up....Again, how long did it take to find this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardboard Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 "Again, how long did it take to find this?" Soon enough they will do an investigation in Canada to find out about Russian involvement and collusion with Conservatives! ::) I had 2 posts: "Wake-up Canada" with very strong arguments about how incompetent Trudeau and his team have been and got very little response other than O'Leary is an idiot and blah, blah, blah. Basically shooting the messenger instead of debating the arguments being brought up. Now if this is what it takes to take out that pos from office then so be it. It does show how politics truly work. Being elected because women thought this guy has good appearance now definitely seems like a key reason vs whatever else. Funny also that there was very little posting about previous gropping by Trudeau on a woman journalist. Screwed up world! Cardboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Trudeau is a bit of a double-faced dude or so the recent scandals imply, but I'm not up-to-date on Canadian politics to know if he is actually doing his job well or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 "Again, how long did it take to find this?" Soon enough they will do an investigation in Canada to find out about Russian involvement and collusion with Conservatives! ::) I had 2 posts: "Wake-up Canada" with very strong arguments about how incompetent Trudeau and his team have been and got very little response other than O'Leary is an idiot and blah, blah, blah. Basically shooting the messenger instead of debating the arguments being brought up. Now if this is what it takes to take out that pos from office then so be it. It does show how politics truly work. Being elected because women thought this guy has good appearance now definitely seems like a key reason vs whatever else. Funny also that there was very little posting about previous gropping by Trudeau on a woman journalist. Screwed up world! Cardboard That's one person's word against another...not like Kavanaugh or Trump, where you had 5-10 people say they've been groped or regularly grab "pu**y". You have proof that Trudeau wore black-brown-face...so if he's set the standard to judge others, he should do the same...step down. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepdive Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I would say that face paint resides somewhere between inappropriate to very hateful. It is also what you do while in facepaint that make the act forgiving or downright hateful. But if you're wearing blackface, carrying around a bucket of fried chicken, and eating watermelon. It's pretty disgusting. We are missing a lot of the context. I always felt that Trudeau was doing the exact opposite of Trump just for the sake of doing what is the opposite of Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Ive never really gotten the fixation with being outraged over this. Its all about intent. As said in the post above, if you're mocking or making a caricature of others, sure. But costume parties? Actors? Who gives a f***? Thats as harmless as it gets, and in some cases, ie costume parties, possibly even a sign of admiration, not denigration... An actor's job is to get into character. Where does the insanity end? Johnny Depp gets blasted for dressing like a Native American in a perfume add...where was the outrage when he dressed like a pirate? He clearly is not a pirate! If somebody is light and is portraying somebody dark, or vice versa, uhm, isn't it more authentic to kind of resemble what you're portraying? Why is the Wayans brothers "white chicks" movie still not a lightning rod of controversy? You're telling me a little kid who loves basketball and wants to be Michael Jordan is racist or hateful if he tries to look like him? GTFO of here...Its all just media whipped circus fodder designed to manipulate the lesserlings and always offendable crowds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Ive never really gotten the fixation with being outraged over this. Its all about intent. As said in the post above, if you're mocking or making a caricature of others, sure. But costume parties? Actors? Who gives a f***? Thats as harmless as it gets, and in some cases, ie costume parties, possibly even a sign of admiration, not denigration... An actor's job is to get into character. Where does the insanity end? Johnny Depp gets blasted for dressing like a Native American in a perfume add...where was the outrage when he dressed like a pirate? He clearly is not a pirate! If somebody is light and is portraying somebody dark, or vice versa, uhm, isn't it more authentic to kind of resemble what you're portraying? Why is the Wayans brothers "white chicks" movie still not a lightning rod of controversy? You're telling me a little kid who loves basketball and wants to be Michael Jordan is racist or hateful if he tries to look like him? GTFO of here...Its all just media whipped circus fodder designed to manipulate the lesserlings and always offendable crowds... The point is it wasn't harmless at one time Greg. That's the whole reason that it became politically correct...to rub out the whole dark history behind it. If you watch Breakfast at Tiffany's, how can you not be disturbed and offended by the Mickey Rooney Japanese landlord scene? It was perfectly fine at the time and a comedic hit, but we know better over time...we EXPECT better over time! You wash your hands after you take a piss, correct? So why is that a common practice today, whereas 50 years ago, most men would walk in and out of the urinal without washing their hands...it's hygenic and prevents the passing of germs...you know better and you do better! I do agree with you on the dressing up stuff. I think people should have been a hell of alot more offended by the Wayan's brother's White Chicks movie than Johnny Depp's ad. One colored their face and the other simply took on the apparel of another culture with no malice intended. I would have been fine with Trudeau wearing the Aladdin outfit, but the blackface...and not even dark-skinned...literally the old school "black" caricature paint we used to see in minstrel shows or by bigots back 80+ years ago...disgusting! The Liberals will not get my vote if he's leader in the upcoming election! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepdive Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Ive never really gotten the fixation with being outraged over this. Its all about intent. As said in the post above, if you're mocking or making a caricature of others, sure. But costume parties? Actors? Who gives a f***? Thats as harmless as it gets, and in some cases, ie costume parties, possibly even a sign of admiration, not denigration... An actor's job is to get into character. Where does the insanity end? Johnny Depp gets blasted for dressing like a Native American in a perfume add...where was the outrage when he dressed like a pirate? He clearly is not a pirate! If somebody is light and is portraying somebody dark, or vice versa, uhm, isn't it more authentic to kind of resemble what you're portraying? Why is the Wayans brothers "white chicks" movie still not a lightning rod of controversy? You're telling me a little kid who loves basketball and wants to be Michael Jordan is racist or hateful if he tries to look like him? GTFO of here...Its all just media whipped circus fodder designed to manipulate the lesserlings and always offendable crowds... The point is it wasn't harmless at one time Greg. That's the whole reason that it became politically correct...to rub out the whole dark history behind it. If you watch Breakfast at Tiffany's, how can you not be disturbed and offended by the Mickey Rooney Japanese landlord scene? It was perfectly fine at the time and a comedic hit, but we know better over time...we EXPECT better over time! You wash your hands after you take a piss, correct? So why is that a common practice today, whereas 50 years ago, most men would walk in and out of the urinal without washing their hands...it's hygenic and prevents the passing of germs...you know better and you do better! I do agree with you on the dressing up stuff. I think people should have been a hell of alot more offended by the Wayan's brother's White Chicks movie than Johnny Depp's ad. One colored their face and the other simply took on the apparel of another culture with no malice intended. I would have been fine with Trudeau wearing the Aladdin outfit, but the blackface...and not even dark-skinned...literally the old school "black" caricature paint we used to see in minstrel shows or by bigots back 80+ years ago...disgusting! The Liberals will not get my vote if he's leader in the upcoming election! Cheers! The timing is interesting and the opposition has accomplished their objective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 White Chicks literally covered all the "outrage" bases. It was using makeup to resemble other people. It also was hugely stereotypical, and even mean spirited to a degree. I didn't care. It was somewhat funny...At the end of the day, funny, offensive, indifferent...its all a matter of opinion and perspective which is entirely subjective. I mean while we're at it, what about Mike Meyers and the fat suit? Fat Bastard? I mean where do we draw the line with this shit and walking on eggshells? Live action Disney movies have people dressing up as animals! I think at the end of the day life is just a whole lot more enjoyable if you don't go running around looking to be offended or taking offense to everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 We're betraying our ages here with these 15 year old movie references ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 White Chicks literally covered all the "outrage" bases. It was using makeup to resemble other people. It also was hugely stereotypical, and even mean spirited to a degree. I didn't care. It was somewhat funny...At the end of the day, funny, offensive, indifferent...its all a matter of opinion and perspective which is entirely subjective. I mean while we're at it, what about Mike Meyers and the fat suit? Fat Bastard? I mean where do we draw the line with this shit and walking on eggshells? Live action Disney movies have people dressing up as animals! I think at the end of the day life is just a whole lot more enjoyable if you don't go running around looking to be offended or taking offense to everything. There is a difference between comics pushing boundaries and the Prime Minister wearing blackface. Kind of like Prince Harry wearing a Nazi SS outfit. Yeah, they were young, but they knew better...especially when you consider which families they came from and the educations they've received. By the way, the line is constantly moving and always will be! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregmal Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 White Chicks literally covered all the "outrage" bases. It was using makeup to resemble other people. It also was hugely stereotypical, and even mean spirited to a degree. I didn't care. It was somewhat funny...At the end of the day, funny, offensive, indifferent...its all a matter of opinion and perspective which is entirely subjective. I mean while we're at it, what about Mike Meyers and the fat suit? Fat Bastard? I mean where do we draw the line with this shit and walking on eggshells? Live action Disney movies have people dressing up as animals! I think at the end of the day life is just a whole lot more enjoyable if you don't go running around looking to be offended or taking offense to everything. There is a difference between comics pushing boundaries and the Prime Minister wearing blackface. Kind of like Prince Harry wearing a Nazi SS outfit. Yeah, they were young, but they knew better...especially when you consider which families they came from and the educations they've received. By the way, the line is constantly moving and always will be! Cheers! Top an extent, but having known a bunch of kids and families like that, its actually quite the opposite. Entitled, pampered, people constantly doing everything for them, including cleaning up or hiding whatever mess they make. Just like Donny. They live with no consequences. The educations and private schools just act as shields. These types of things are rampant there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwericb Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 "There is a difference between comics pushing boundaries and the Prime Minister wearing blackface." This is where the logic breaks down in my opinion. If a Prime Minister wore blackface he should step down immediately. But the Prime Minister did not wear blackface. A young teacher wore blackface many years ago. It was 20 years later that he become Prime Minister. Don't you think there is a big difference? Also - who here is the same person as he was 20 years ago? I am not in any way a Justin supporter. But let's be fair, it is a far, far different situation than someone running for President bragging about sexually assaulting women in the present - and he got elected despite his "locker room talk". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardboard Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 "But let's be fair, it is a far, far different situation than someone running for President bragging about sexually assaulting women in the present - and he got elected despite his "locker room talk"." That is where your logic breaks down too. There is a huge difference between touching someone and rapping someone. Bill Clinton got away with the latter while he was governor while who knows what Trump did exactly (just bragging?) and even if true he wasn't into any kind of public role to use your Trudeau defense. Cardboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 "There is a difference between comics pushing boundaries and the Prime Minister wearing blackface." This is where the logic breaks down in my opinion. If a Prime Minister wore blackface he should step down immediately. But the Prime Minister did not wear blackface. A young teacher wore blackface many years ago. It was 20 years later that he become Prime Minister. Don't you think there is a big difference? Also - who here is the same person as he was 20 years ago? I am not in any way a Justin supporter. But let's be fair, it is a far, far different situation than someone running for President bragging about sexually assaulting women in the present - and he got elected despite his "locker room talk". He's riding on the goodwill of his father's reputation and popularity...including the Trudeau name...so you can't pick and choose what you did 10-20 years ago and what you are doing as Prime Minister. If he murdered someone 20 years ago, it would matter...so why shouldn't stupidity for wearing blackface. There are plenty of people who are capable of being Prime Minister and can do a good job. Just like there are plenty of people who could do a good job as President. Why should countries settle for adequate when picking their leaders? Both Trump and Trudeau can be replaced, and they really aren't that different are they when you examine the privilege they came from and the shit they both got away with...just like the Bush's and Kennedy's are all pretty much the same. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardboard Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 "The Liberals will not get my vote if he's leader in the upcoming election! Cheers!" However, if they put in charge any of the other incompetents from current cabinet they will get your vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwericb Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 It is not much wonder that so many of today’s politicians are of such low quality. What potential quality candidate in their right mind would ever run when everything they ever did since they were 10 years old is going to be brought up and examined under a microscope? If you eliminate everyone who may have a flaw in their past you are eliminating a whole pool of people who could be tomorrow’s leaders. Re Trump and his comments. I believe they were made while he was running for President - not 20 years in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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