Vish_ram Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 A real war that is. Time to call Colin Powell to get some justification to wage a war against some 3rd world shithole country. This is the only way Trump is going to get reelected and stay out of prison. Xi & Fed are trying to wait it out. Please tweet your favorite country to Trump. A good old war removes excess capacity, creates demand, stimulates world economy, helps developed world exit negative rate hell, rally Americans to support war time President, increase patriotism, silence socialist critics, take attention away from Biden/Democratic contenders, etc etc. This also helps Trump get his vaunted Medal of Honor and when peace ensues, get a Nobel prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Trump will likely do whatever he needs to do to get re-elected. Nothing would surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubsfan Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 This is the only way Trump is going to get reelected and stay out of prison. Xi & Fed are trying to wait it out. Pretty funny! The only ones going to prison will be from the FBI, DOJ, and criminals from Hillary's team. An awful lot to choose from! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobafdek Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 A real war that is. Time to call Colin Powell to get some justification to wage a war against some 3rd world shithole country. This is the only way Trump is going to get reelected and stay out of prison. Xi & Fed are trying to wait it out. Please tweet your favorite country to Trump. A good old war removes excess capacity, creates demand, stimulates world economy, helps developed world exit negative rate hell, rally Americans to support war time President, increase patriotism, silence socialist critics, take attention away from Biden/Democratic contenders, etc etc. This also helps Trump get his vaunted Medal of Honor and when peace ensues, get a Nobel prize. Yes, a war of some type is warranted. China is a key responsible player in the deaths of scores of thousands of Americans, on top of their theft of our intellectual property. "Also, I am ordering all carriers, including Fed Ex, Amazon, UPS and the Post Office, to SEARCH FOR & REFUSE, all deliveries of Fentanyl from China (or anywhere else!). Fentanyl kills 100,000 Americans a year. President Xi said this would stop - it didn’t." This is beyond politics. This is Commander-in-Chief talk. This is why we voted for him: to fight for American citizens. Does Biden, or any Democrat, have the balls to do anything like this? Or any Republican? Recent previous Presidents tried to play nice. Trump has the big picture right. Against the China bully, we need a bully like Trump to do what's necessary on behalf of American citizens, and not just on trade and intellectual property. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1164914959131848705 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigarbutt Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 A real war that is. Time to call Colin Powell to get some justification to wage a war against some 3rd world shithole country. This is the only way Trump is going to get reelected and stay out of prison. Xi & Fed are trying to wait it out. Please tweet your favorite country to Trump. A good old war removes excess capacity, creates demand, stimulates world economy, helps developed world exit negative rate hell, rally Americans to support war time President, increase patriotism, silence socialist critics, take attention away from Biden/Democratic contenders, etc etc. This also helps Trump get his vaunted Medal of Honor and when peace ensues, get a Nobel prize. Yes, a war of some type is warranted. China is a key responsible player in the deaths of scores of thousands of Americans, on top of their theft of our intellectual property. "Also, I am ordering all carriers, including Fed Ex, Amazon, UPS and the Post Office, to SEARCH FOR & REFUSE, all deliveries of Fentanyl from China (or anywhere else!). Fentanyl kills 100,000 Americans a year. President Xi said this would stop - it didn’t." This is beyond politics. This is Commander-in-Chief talk. This is why we voted for him: to fight for American citizens. Does Biden, or any Democrat, have the balls to do anything like this? Or any Republican? Recent previous Presidents tried to play nice. Trump has the big picture right. Against the China bully, we need a bully like Trump to do what's necessary on behalf of American citizens, and not just on trade and intellectual property. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1164914959131848705 Hi cobafdek, I understand that the fentanyl question involves a supply issue but your comment seems to integrate too easily a resentment component which, it seems, forms the basis of the bully-like message concerning the trade imbalance conundrum at large. Don't you tell people to look inside themselves for the answers? To deal with the opioid and addiction crisis, the US has spent $1T and made forty-five million drug arrests. Are you getting ahead? I would submit that the most important issue are the reasons behind the incredibly high and excessive demand for drugs. I guess fighting can be justified in selected circumstances but I wouldn't fight for the wrong reasons even if a so-called Commander would order me to do so. Would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardboard Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 "This is why we voted for him: to fight for American citizens." There is nothing wrong with that but, he has to use his head a little to get to a net benefit for all Americans in that fight. While fentanyl is a big problem so is cocaine, heroin, alcohol, tobacco and many other killing thousands per year and it is not all coming from China. One major problem with the Left is that they are fighting for specific causes or special interest which affects only a small percentage of Americans. Fentanyl would be similar. If Trump wants to fight China on trade that is fine but, he has to use tools and negotiating tactics that will ensure that we are all overall better of and not worst of. Cardboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobafdek Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Are you getting ahead? I think you're inadvertently making my point. We're not making headway. he has to use tools and negotiating tactics that will ensure that we are all overall better of and not worst of. Cardboard There is no such thing as knowing ahead of time that a specific course of action will ensure success in complex arenas like international trade (economics) and human social behavior (drug addiction crisis). If the course were obvious, it would already have been tried and the problem solved. Human beings cannot calculate the future, the actual odds of success of competing policies. We really don't know what to do. But we CAN know what NOT to do: Don't continue policy ideas that HAVEN't worked. You guys' replies are logical and reasonable. But if your points make sense, why haven't they worked? Trump is an alchemist: http://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax.ca/forum/books/alchemy-rory-sutherland/ When Trump does something unconventional, it looks illogical and unreasonable (yes, crazy). But how many conventional leaders would have thought of combining the China trade issue with the Fentanyl drug crisis issue? Both issues, in isolation, have been insolvable. Linking the two is creative, and has the potential of changing the status quo. At the very least, by framing the two issues as one, it has the potential of uniting Americans against the Chinese who have treated us badly for decades. It's time for "war." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsad Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Are you getting ahead? I think you're inadvertently making my point. We're not making headway. he has to use tools and negotiating tactics that will ensure that we are all overall better of and not worst of. Cardboard There is no such thing as knowing ahead of time that a specific course of action will ensure success in complex arenas like international trade (economics) and human social behavior (drug addiction crisis). If the course were obvious, it would already have been tried and the problem solved. Human beings cannot calculate the future, the actual odds of success of competing policies. We really don't know what to do. But we CAN know what NOT to do: Don't continue policy ideas that HAVEN't worked. You guys' replies are logical and reasonable. But if your points make sense, why haven't they worked? Trump is an alchemist: http://www.cornerofberkshireandfairfax.ca/forum/books/alchemy-rory-sutherland/ When Trump does something unconventional, it looks illogical and unreasonable (yes, crazy). But how many conventional leaders would have thought of combining the China trade issue with the Fentanyl drug crisis issue? Both issues, in isolation, have been insolvable. Linking the two is creative, and has the potential of changing the status quo. At the very least, by framing the two issues as one, it has the potential of uniting Americans against the Chinese who have treated us badly for decades. It's time for "war." Trump is the "chosen" one! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meiroy Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-29/ecb-s-nowotny-says-74-years-of-peace-have-unbalanced-the-economy ECB’s Nowotny Says 74 Years of Peace Have Unbalanced the Economy OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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