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For the last couple of years, one of the only organizations in uncovering what really has been happening in Washington is Judicial Watch.

Judicial Watch lawsuits, on behalf of the public - seek to review original documents and correspondence hidden from the American Public.

 

Those interested in the truth, like so many smart analysts on CoBF, should be interested.  It's pretty clear that the Fake News Media will

never give you the truth, since MSM political agendas preclude them for searching out the truth.

 

For a coming preview of what you might see in the next few months, when the shit hits the fan - change your sources of information

from the Fake News to organizations like Judicial Watch, The Hill and The National Review:

 

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/in-the-news/tom-fitton-spying-on-trump-was-run-out-of-obama-white-house/

 

https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/in-the-news/tom-fitton-doj-has-been-rogue-agency-part-of-coup-effort-against-president-trump/

 

 

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Everyone, including Trump supporters, can see plainly that this is just Trump's way of obfuscating the fact that 35+ associates of his were indicted and charged..."I'm innocent, and now let's investigate the investigators, even though half of my cronies, including my lawyers and campaign leader, are now sitting in jail.  It was a coup I tell you...I coup!"  Rubbish!

 

And as for fake news, it's funny how you guys throw this "fake news" crap around the liberal outlets, when Ailes and Fox were the first of its kind and started all of the "fake" or opinion news.  Cheers!

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Yea, that whole "Russia & Trump threw the election against Hillary story" really gained CNN and MSNBC lots of journalistic integrity now didn't it?

 

Keep using the "Most Trusted Name in News" , CNN, and MSNBC's Rachel Maddow for her wall-to-wall coverage on "The Russia Conspiracy".

 

After all, a broken clock is right twice a day - so eventually the Fake News will get something right.

 

 

 

 

 

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I think the national review is a reasonable right wing site, the others less so but you probably feel the same way about my dailykos habit. The danger is that you only read conservative news and I only read liberal sites and then everyone gets together and wonders why the other side is so stupid that they don't know the "facts" that we read 100 times. 

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I think the national review is a reasonable right wing site, the others less so but you probably feel the same way about my dailykos habit. The danger is that you only read conservative news and I only read liberal sites and then everyone gets together and wonders why the other side is so stupid that they don't know the "facts" that we read 100 times.

 

I'm not at all familiar with Dailykos - so thanks. 

 

But your point is well taken - to be open minded enough to read the left and right opinions/sites.

 

I've always considered The Hill as non-partisan, where both sides can battle it out.

 

And I'm suggesting Judicial Watch given their reliance on suing the government using the Freedom-of-Information acts and obtaining

original documents from government agencies/actors, which can help you come to your own conclusions without the "media spin".

 

 

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A visual representation of the echo chamber in cubsfan's mind:

 

https://youtu.be/hY8FEpLdfYI?t=70

 

;D ;D ;D

 

Touche LC - I enjoyed that!

 

While I believe the echo chamber is an accurate representation of Cubsfan's mind, you have to admit The Last Jedi kind of sucked!  Much happier JJ is back as director.  Cheers!

 

I thoroughly enjoyed the Last Jedi despite some faults. I liked how Hamilton played Skywalker as well as the iconic finale and other memorable scenes like the echo chamber mentioned above. but then gain, I am a sucker for Epics and even liked “Cloud Atlas”, which I think had more faults than the last Jedi.

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Yea, that whole "Russia & Trump threw the election against Hillary story" really gained CNN and MSNBC lots of journalistic integrity now didn't it?

 

Keep using the "Most Trusted Name in News" , CNN, and MSNBC's Rachel Maddow for her wall-to-wall coverage on "The Russia Conspiracy".

 

After all, a broken clock is right twice a day - so eventually the Fake News will get something right.

 

Moddow is the Alex Jones of the left.

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An excellent article today from National Review about the changing Democratic Party and what is at stake:

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/progressive-revolution-ends-in-socialism/

I wouldn't call it an excellent article, for example they kept mis-characterizing the economy under Obama as "stagnant" and "ossified".

 

But it was (in my opinion) illustrative of how each party sees each other, i.e. "THOSE GUYS caused all these problems, and ONLY WE can fixed it". And this goes both ways for each party.

 

It seems to me like you have one side which wants us all to live under some utopia within GovCo's tender and loving arms. And you have the other side who wants to burn GovCo to the ground and grab their spoils of war.

 

The point of governance is to establish fair rules and enforcement that everyone plays by - not to make special rules to take care of each single individual nor allow single individuals to ignore rules and abuse their power. This seems to be lost today.

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The point of governance is to establish fair rules and enforcement that everyone plays by - not to make special rules to take care of each single individual nor allow single individuals to ignore rules and abuse their power. This seems to be lost today.

 

How charmingly quaint.

 

That isn't the point of government at all, but it is what they tell children during the brainwashing process commonly called "school".  The point of government is to justify theft and murder when perpetrated by or for the ruling elites, to leach money out of the productive to transfer it to the ruling class, and to provide the psychopathic-power-hungry-control-freaks in the ruling class the power they crave.  It always amazes me that someone can say what you just did in the face of 3000+ years of human history to the contrary.  Brainwashing is a powerful tool especially when used on the young.

 

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It always amazes me that someone can say what you just did in the face of 3000+ years of human history to the contrary.

 

So there has never been effective governance in the last 3000 years? Quite the claim.

 

The point of government is to justify theft and murder when perpetrated by or for the ruling elites, to leach money out of the productive to transfer it to the ruling class, and to provide the psychopathic-power-hungry-control-freaks in the ruling class the power they crave.

FYI - This rhetoric is where the libertarian movement crosses over the fence from "hmm maybe there's some good points there", into the field of "nope these people are lunatics".

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It always amazes me that someone can say what you just did in the face of 3000+ years of human history to the contrary.

 

So there has never been effective governance in the last 3000 years? Quite the claim.

 

The point of government is to justify theft and murder when perpetrated by or for the ruling elites, to leach money out of the productive to transfer it to the ruling class, and to provide the psychopathic-power-hungry-control-freaks in the ruling class the power they crave.

FYI - This rhetoric is where the libertarian movement crosses over the fence from "hmm maybe there's some good points there", into the field of "nope these people are lunatics".

 

There has been very effective government over the last 3000+ years.  Effective at the goals I stated not the ones you stated.

 

Yeah I know.  "crazy", "unrealistic", "naive", "it's always been this way".  All things said to the abolitionists in prior centuries too.  There is an inertia to the status quo, so it won't change quickly (if ever), but that doesn't mean we are wrong.

 

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Yea, that whole "Russia & Trump threw the election against Hillary story" really gained CNN and MSNBC lots of journalistic integrity now didn't it?

 

Keep using the "Most Trusted Name in News" , CNN, and MSNBC's Rachel Maddow for her wall-to-wall coverage on "The Russia Conspiracy".

 

After all, a broken clock is right twice a day - so eventually the Fake News will get something right.

 

Moddow is the Alex Jones of the left.

 

Yup, just as Alex Jones has been marginalized and stepped on by most Conservatives, it's time for the Liberals to do the same for

Maddow, Brian Stelter and Chris Cuomo.

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There has been very effective government over the last 3000+ years.  Effective at the goals I stated not the ones you stated.

 

 

That's quite the one-sided view. Take a look at the government-led modernization of Singapore which essentially turned the country from a third world to first world country in the span of 30 years.

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An excellent article today from National Review about the changing Democratic Party and what is at stake:

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/progressive-revolution-ends-in-socialism/

I wouldn't call it an excellent article, for example they kept mis-characterizing the economy under Obama as "stagnant" and "ossified".

 

But it was (in my opinion) illustrative of how each party sees each other, i.e. "THOSE GUYS caused all these problems, and ONLY WE can fixed it". And this goes both ways for each party.

 

It seems to me like you have one side which wants us all to live under some utopia within GovCo's tender and loving arms. And you have the other side who wants to burn GovCo to the ground and grab their spoils of war.

 

The point of governance is to establish fair rules and enforcement that everyone plays by - not to make special rules to take care of each single individual nor allow single individuals to ignore rules and abuse their power. This seems to be lost today.

 

It does illustrate how far apart the parties are, so agree there.  But I think the real point is the hard drift to socialism and a radical left agenda

that most Americans are never going to accept. I can imagine Trump being re-elected, in spite of his flaws - when the choice is radical socialism.

I'm actually shocked that the Democrats are not putting up a moderate candidate - but I guess that just makes me one of their "deplorable".

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I'm actually shocked that the Democrats are not putting up a moderate candidate - but I guess that just makes me one of their "deplorable".

 

The parties have sadly become polarized - hopefully the "silent" middle becomes more vocal, as I would argue the drift between moderate democrats and moderate republicans is not too far apart. After all, what happened to "socially liberal and fiscally conservative"?

 

I wish either party would put up a good moderate candidate. Or, that the populists on either side (or both sides) would moderate their positions.

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An excellent article today from National Review about the changing Democratic Party and what is at stake:

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/progressive-revolution-ends-in-socialism/

I wouldn't call it an excellent article, for example they kept mis-characterizing the economy under Obama as "stagnant" and "ossified".

 

But it was (in my opinion) illustrative of how each party sees each other, i.e. "THOSE GUYS caused all these problems, and ONLY WE can fixed it". And this goes both ways for each party.

 

It seems to me like you have one side which wants us all to live under some utopia within GovCo's tender and loving arms. And you have the other side who wants to burn GovCo to the ground and grab their spoils of war.

 

The point of governance is to establish fair rules and enforcement that everyone plays by - not to make special rules to take care of each single individual nor allow single individuals to ignore rules and abuse their power. This seems to be lost today.

 

It does illustrate how far apart the parties are, so agree there.  But I think the real point is the hard drift to socialism and a radical left agenda

that most Americans are never going to accept. I can imagine Trump being re-elected, in spite of his flaws - when the choice is radical socialism.

I'm actually shocked that the Democrats are not putting up a moderate candidate - but I guess that just makes me one of their "deplorable".

 

There are moderate Democrats in the running, but the left wingers get most of the air time.

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