Bloomberg won't run

[Cardboard]

Probably too worried to lose against Trump. LOL!

 

He prefers to play #2 to Al Gore instead and try to get rid of evil carbon via the shadows!

 

Finally, he is as crazy as the other left wing nuts who have announced their run so far.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2019/03/05/michael-bloomberg-will-not-run-for-president-in-2020.html

[Gregmal]

I was hoping he would have. He's a quality candidate.

 

What will now be hilarious to watch is which turd pops out the winner of the mostest diversest contest they have going now. Will be great to see how quickly all the hypocrite lefties line up behind the slew of crooked and sleazy candidates like Koomala and Pacohontas after crying about Trump's corruption and ethics...

[cameronfen]

I was hoping he would have. He's a quality candidate.

 

What will now be hilarious to watch is which turd pops out the winner of the mostest diversest contest they have going now. Will be great to see how quickly all the hypocrite lefties line up behind the slew of crooked and sleazy candidates like Koomala and Pacohontas after crying about Trump's corruption and ethics...

 

Certainly Hillary Clinton has done her share of machiavellian things.  Same with Elizabeth Warren (well basically just listing Native American which I think the average person at least considers doing if they can while applying to college for instance).  Harris is guilty of cheating once that we know of but nothing else that come out.  That's bad and also likely machiavallian but here's the list for Trump:

 

Trump has been guilty of cheating on his wife multiple times.  Hiding campaign contributions to pay off mistresses which is a felony.  Hits on his daughter.  Working with people with ties to the mob and Russian govt.  Asked Russia to hack Hillary's email when he likely had back channels that knew Russia was supporting him and willing to subvert US intersts.  Called Mexicans rapists, shithole country thing.  Moral equivalency between white nationalists and counterprotesters even after a white nationalist killed a counter protestor.  Lies 1000s of times during his presidency even when everyone knew he was lying (size of innagartion for example).  Consistently stiffing people who work for him.  Inflating assets for loans and deflating assets for taxes (although no proof he did anything illegal).  Faking bone spurs so he would not be drafted while insulting generals, veterans and families of dead soldiers.  Taunted rogue nuclear states with unstable leaders.  Doesnt do any work as president (executive time).  Cant function without people stroking his ego every 2 seconds (those videos of the cabinet praising him before meetings like we are some banana republic).

 

These are just some of his moral failings.  I could list more and a whole lot more intellectual failings which is hard to blame him for (hes old and that happens) but he shouldnt be leader of the free world. 

 

You can disagree with Harris and Warren's policies but this is just a reminder that there is no equivalency between Warren/Harris and Trump at a character level. 

[wachtwoord]

I think you missed Hillary's killing spree in Libya in your list there mate. Most people wait until they are the US president before becoming mass murderers.

 

Doesn't really stack up against Trump's (mostly childish) shortcomings now does it? ;)

[gfp]

I also missed Hillary's killing spree in Libya!

[Gregmal]

Trump's father gave him an opportunity with the family business and he took it to a level that even marveled his father.

 

Koomala Harris used her orifices to ascertain political opportunity. No wonder she is in favor of legalizing sex work. She also has a horrid and crooked track record from her time as AG. Has been said to engage in pay for play as well as completely harboring an environment filled with sexual misconduct. She is the new face of identity politics, so much so that even her own parents are disgusted with her.

 

Pocahontas lied about her heritage(how stupid are people in the first place to believe that this woman, white as snow, was an Indian) to advance. She also exploited senior citizens and people in foreclosure to make her money flipping homes prior to becoming a politician.

 

My point is that all these people are disgraces. But it will be interesting to see how many Trump hating lefties jump headfirst onto the cheerleader wagon, pom pom's and all, to root for an equally disgusting and morally flawed individual. Wouldn't be the first time this sort of behavior is evident. Look at Dougie in the Russia Investigation thread. He hates corrupt Trump. He was Hillary's biggest fan.

[gfp]

If I had to guess, I would guess that Joe Biden will be the nominee and would have about a 50% chance of winning the presidency.  Forced to make a bet, I would bet that Joe Biden wins the presidency.

[cwericb]

How’s this:

 

November 2020. Biden wins the presidency.

 

Trump questions results

 

States that millions of illegal votes were cast against him.

 

January 2021. Trump refuses to step down.

 

Declares himself Interim-President

 

Declares the election to be a massive hoax and a fraud.

 

States that he will commission a thorough investigation into the results

 

Chairman of the investigation will be Reince Priebus.

 

Co-chairs will be Kayleigh McEnany and Kellyanne Conway.

 

Investigation will take its time to ensure every vote is properly tabulated.

 

States in the meantime he will continue his position as ‘Interim-President’ until the investigation is fully completed

 

June 2022

 

Dems demand end of investigation.

 

Trump counters with - "Look how much time Muller took"

 

December  2023

 

Investigation complete. Declares election null and void

 

January 2024

 

Trump announces he will run again

 

When term limits are mentioned he reminds them that he only served one term as President

 

The other term was as Interim-President

[rkbabang]

If I had to guess, I would guess that Joe Biden will be the nominee and would have about a 50% chance of winning the presidency.  Forced to make a bet, I would bet that Joe Biden wins the presidency.

 

 

Now that is funny.  Biden is the Democratic version of Dan Quayle.  Have you ever heard him speak?  Not to mention how handsy he is with women and little girls.

 

 

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the, you know, the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"

 

"Look, John's last-minute economic plan does nothing to tackle the number-one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as Barack says, a three-letter word: jobs. J-O-B-S, jobs."

 

"My mother believed and my father believed that if I wanted to be president of the United States, I could be, I could be vice president!"

 

"You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent....I'm not joking."

 

"I promise you, the president has a big stick. I promise you."

 

"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."

 

"Well, you know, my shotgun will do better for you than your AR-15, because you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door."

 

"If there's ever a problem just walk out on the balcony here--walk out, put that double barrel shot gun and fire two blasts outside the house -- I promise you whoever is coming in ... You don't need an AR-15, it's harder to aim, it's harder to use...Buy a shotgun! Buy a shotgun!"

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=joe+biden+creepy&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj7pKbO_e3gAhUSPN8KHaFyCeUQ_AUIDygC&cshid=1551891311245481&biw=1448&bih=852

 

 

 

[gfp]

Cool.  Who do you think the democratic nominee is likely to be?

[rkbabang]

Cool.  Who do you think the democratic nominee is likely to be?

 

I don't know to be honest.  It is too early to tell.  The eventual nominee might turn out to be someone who hasn't even announced their candidacy yet.  Out of those who have announce already I think a number of them have a higher likely hood of receiving the nomination than Biden.  Warren, Booker,  or Harris maybe?  I just can't see it being Biden.

[LC]

The Dems are sorely lacking a strong candidate. Bernie would be great because he has extreme support - if he moderated some of his proposed policies to appeal to a wider audience he would very good. His best move IMHO would be to shift his brand from being a revolutionary to a transitory force.

[rkbabang]

There weren't a lot of people who would have said Obama would be the nominee the first week in March 2007.  Same goes for Clinton the first week in March  1993.  There is no person who is clearly going to be the nominee, so I think whoever it turns out to be might not be at all obvious to us right now.

 

 

[Gregmal]

I think there is a very clear, and deliberate effort in the MSM to pump up Biden and Harris. It will be one of those two IMO.

[rkbabang]

I think there is a very clear, and deliberate effort in the MSM to pump up Biden and Harris. It will be one of those two IMO.

 

I'm not so sure the media has that kind of power anymore.

 

[Gregmal]

They probably dont but you can still tell their biases.

 

Biden they know is likely the best shot at beating Trump. He's an establishment guy. He's a powerhouse fundraiser who is in with WS. He's got the approval of all the "cool" Democrats...But he's got issues and may not even run.

 

At the same time, they realize Harris is a lesser candidate but are drooling over the fact that in the contest of who is the mostest diverse, she is a shmorgishborg of ultimately meaningless, but lefty appeasing trophy "firsts". Woman, black, dope smoking Jamaican(apparently, and by her own admission), Indian, etc. She's adept at fundraising, not surprising for someone with a history of sleeping around, and quite possibly, enough of a socialist, without quite being confused for a full blown one, to get the moderate lefty(which happens to be Biden's sweet spot).

 

Will be fun to watch.

 

 

[Cardboard]

"I'm not so sure the media has that kind of power anymore."

 

Not you but, it sure still has a lot of power to hypnotize so many on this website. LOL!

 

Cardboard

[cameronfen]

I think you missed Hillary's killing spree in Libya in your list there mate. Most people wait until they are the US president before becoming mass murderers.

 

Doesn't really stack up against Trump's (mostly childish) shortcomings now does it? ;)

 

I was responding to Gregmals statement:

 

 

Trump's father gave him an opportunity with the family business and he took it to a level that even marveled his father.

 

Koomala Harris used her orifices to ascertain political opportunity. No wonder she is in favor of legalizing sex work. She also has a horrid and crooked track record from her time as AG. Has been said to engage in pay for play as well as completely harboring an environment filled with sexual misconduct. She is the new face of identity politics, so much so that even her own parents are disgusted with her.

 

Pocahontas lied about her heritage(how stupid are people in the first place to believe that this woman, white as snow, was an Indian) to advance. She also exploited senior citizens and people in foreclosure to make her money flipping homes prior to becoming a politician.

 

My point is that all these people are disgraces. But it will be interesting to see how many Trump hating lefties jump headfirst onto the cheerleader wagon, pom pom's and all, to root for an equally disgusting and morally flawed individual. Wouldn't be the first time this sort of behavior is evident. Look at Dougie in the Russia Investigation thread. He hates corrupt Trump. He was Hillary's biggest fan.

 

Gregmal doesn't mention Hillary (for good reason she is likely not running).  I mentioned Hillary in passing because I know that's who everyone wants to blame.  That being said, if you can point me to evidence that Hillary murdered someone, I will vote for Trump in the next election even though I think he is the worst possible candidate.  The republicans investigated Hillary non-stop when they controlled congress, to my knowledge did not charge her or anyone working for her for anything illegal.  She didn't kill anyone in Libya, she made a stupid decision that got people killed.  This kind of fake news is dangerous, not only because of stuff like pizza gate but also because if you believe the people across the aisle are mass murders, its easy to rationalize that your side is the best and there is no need to compromise.  The Democrat elite has this same issue when they say Trump supporters are all racists, bigoted and uneducated (read: poor but that's not something PC democrats would say). 

 

 

2nd point

Trump's father gave him an opportunity with the family business and he took it to a level that even marveled his father.

 

Koomala Harris used her orifices to ascertain political opportunity. No wonder she is in favor of legalizing sex work. She also has a horrid and crooked track record from her time as AG. Has been said to engage in pay for play as well as completely harboring an environment filled with sexual misconduct. She is the new face of identity politics, so much so that even her own parents are disgusted with her.

 

Pocahontas lied about her heritage(how stupid are people in the first place to believe that this woman, white as snow, was an Indian) to advance. She also exploited senior citizens and people in foreclosure to make her money flipping homes prior to becoming a politician.

 

My point is that all these people are disgraces. But it will be interesting to see how many Trump hating lefties jump headfirst onto the cheerleader wagon, pom pom's and all, to root for an equally disgusting and morally flawed individual. Wouldn't be the first time this sort of behavior is evident. Look at Dougie in the Russia Investigation thread. He hates corrupt Trump. He was Hillary's biggest fan.

 

We can disagree on how entrapanuerial Trump is, although I concede he probably could teach a roomful of Chief Marketing Officers a thing or two.  That being said, sleeping with the boss is not illegal.  Some people do it, it's not good quality, but my guess is a lot of politicians who are well known to do this kind of stuff.  I'm not voting for her, but how does compare to Trump not even keeping a pretense of being faithful and his "locker room" talk.  This does not compare. 

 

Warren lied about her heritage.  I've contemplated not putting Asian on my college applications so that I would get a better shot at schools with quotas (which like Warren is technically true because I am 1/4 white and would be the truth by omission).  It's not a good thing to do, but we are comparing that to Trump's felonies and cheating and actively courting the Russian government to tip the election in his favor?  Come on.  I have not heard about Warren's house flipping thing, but I would bet that Donald and Fred (and Jared) have been a lot more exploitive when they built subsidized housing that Warren was when she was flipping a couple of houses. 

 

Everyone has skeletons.  When you become a politician, these things come out.  But just because everyone has skeleton's doesn't mean that some people's skeletons aren't worse than others. 

[Spos]

I think unless we get a recession before the next election, Trump wins regardless of the opponent.  Most presidents get reelected.  Already being the president gives a big advantage during a campaign.  You have the experience, you are already presidential and have credibility.  That's just a big advantage.  The last president not to get reelected was Bush Sr. and he had a recession that hurt him.

[Spekulatius]

I think there is a very clear, and deliberate effort in the MSM to pump up Biden and Harris. It will be one of those two IMO.

 

I'm not so sure the media has that kind of power anymore.

 

The media is just guessing like everyone else and they are betting on well known names. Just my guess, but I think will see more candidates with extreme viewpoints. It works well for OCA and Trump, so politicans take notice. With the social media now replacing traditional media, it is much easier to come out of nowhere.

[meiroy]

I think there is a very clear, and deliberate effort in the MSM to pump up Biden and Harris. It will be one of those two IMO.

 

I'm not so sure the media has that kind of power anymore.

 

The media is just guessing like everyone else and they are betting on well known names. Just my guess, but I think will see more candidates with extreme viewpoints. It works well for OCA and Trump, so politicans take notice. With the social media now replacing traditional media, it is much easier to come out of nowhere.

 

Recently it seems that some people on the GOP side have belatedly started realizing that the pendulum is swinging from one extreme to the other.  Vote for Trump, get AOC for free.  So, it wouldn't surprise me if we'll be hearing in the coming months of GOPs suggesting Pence replaces Trump. Too little, too late.

 

 

[rb]

I think there is a very clear, and deliberate effort in the MSM to pump up Biden and Harris. It will be one of those two IMO.

 

I'm not so sure the media has that kind of power anymore.

 

The media is just guessing like everyone else and they are betting on well known names. Just my guess, but I think will see more candidates with extreme viewpoints. It works well for OCA and Trump, so politicans take notice. With the social media now replacing traditional media, it is much easier to come out of nowhere.

 

Recently it seems that some people on the GOP side have belatedly started realizing that the pendulum is swinging from one extreme to the other.  Vote for Trump, get AOC for free.  So, it wouldn't surprise me if we'll be hearing in the coming months of GOPs suggesting Pence replaces Trump. Too little, too late.

Not gonna happen. GOP doesn't control shit anymore.

[wachtwoord]

@cameronfen go read the wikileaks filings on Hillary's emails around the Libya war period if you want to inform yourself.

[meiroy]

I think there is a very clear, and deliberate effort in the MSM to pump up Biden and Harris. It will be one of those two IMO.

 

I'm not so sure the media has that kind of power anymore.

 

The media is just guessing like everyone else and they are betting on well known names. Just my guess, but I think will see more candidates with extreme viewpoints. It works well for OCA and Trump, so politicans take notice. With the social media now replacing traditional media, it is much easier to come out of nowhere.

 

Recently it seems that some people on the GOP side have belatedly started realizing that the pendulum is swinging from one extreme to the other.  Vote for Trump, get AOC for free.  So, it wouldn't surprise me if we'll be hearing in the coming months of GOPs suggesting Pence replaces Trump. Too little, too late.

Not gonna happen. GOP doesn't control shit anymore.

 

His circle of sociopath enablers could get him easily kicked out if they believe he will not win again.  He remains in power thanks to them.

[gfp]

This thread went off the rails from the Bloomberg won't run announcement, but I was curious from the above post to read of Elizabeth Warren's exploitation of senior citizens and other people in foreclosure -

 

She also exploited senior citizens and people in foreclosure to make her money flipping homes prior to becoming a politician.

 

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2016/05/25/donald-trump-accuses-elizabeth-warren-making-quick-profits-flipping-houses/d9Pelzba0hj00R8kcKf45H/story.html

 

I'm not an Elizabeth Warren supporter or likely voter, but this really doesn't sound like something concerning - it sounds like someone trying to make something out of nothing.