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The issues we place importance on are absolutely absurd:

https://www.salon.com/2018/02/28/beyond-wedding-cakes-to-funerals-new-ad-depicts-high-stakes-of-masterpiece-cakeshop-scotus-case/

 

The supreme court is now going to tell bakers how to bake cakes. Absurd!

 

This is the damage the left has wrought. The most trivial issues become the most important ones. Did Caesar say I came, I saw, I told bakers how to bake cakes? Was Alexander the Great's big accomplishment bringing a new cake recipe to the world? How in the heck did America survive for 200 years without telling bakers how to bake cakes.

 

The Left is a cancer. Its motto was to make the personal political. Its succeeded in destroying everything it touches..politics, the law, universities.

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The issues we place importance on are absolutely absurd:

https://www.salon.com/2018/02/28/beyond-wedding-cakes-to-funerals-new-ad-depicts-high-stakes-of-masterpiece-cakeshop-scotus-case/

 

The supreme court is now going to tell bakers how to bake cakes. Absurd!

 

This is the damage the left has wrought. The most trivial issues become the most important ones. Did Caesar say I came, I saw, I told bakers how to bake cakes? Was Alexander the Great's big accomplishment bringing a new cake recipe to the world? How in the heck did America survive for 200 years without telling bakers how to bake cakes.

 

The Left is a cancer. Its motto was to make the personal political. Its succeeded in destroying everything it touches..politics, the law, universities.

 

The right is also a cancer.  I don't even have to read some obscure court case in the back pages of the newspaper. I just have to turn on the news and the first thing I heard is the right saying the solution to the shooting epidemic in schools (which btw is by and large a US problem) is to arm teachers with  AR-15s.

 

That is more promiment and more absurd.

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Globally governments have simply become far too large and powerful. It is well in need of a shakeout.

 

+1.

 

The notion that even 30M people, never mind 300M+, can be under the same political system is absurd.  A small town in Utah has nothing in common with Los Angeles or Chicago.  Hell, a small town in CA or IL has nothing in common with Los Angeles or Chicago.  There should be free trade between everyone and more local government everywhere.  I'm for anything that breaks up centralized political systems anywhere.

 

If you think it is absurd that people own AR-15s then stay in a place where they don't, don't force your system on a place like NH with not only a large rate of gun ownership, but the largest per-capita machine gun ownership in the US.  I'll keep my AR-15 thank you very much and I don't think school teachers should be forced to disarm themselves just because of their profession.  If it is your job to be in a room full of children and you have decided that you will have no means of protecting them, then you have failed your basic responsibility as an adult human being.  Unlike the cake nonsense protecting children would be okay if everyone did it.  Whereas there is nothing generalized with the cake case. What happens when a lefty baker refuses to make an wedding cake where the bride and groom are both holding rifles? What happens when the jewish baker refuses to bake a cake for the neo-nazis in town with a big swastika on it?  I wouldn't force anyone to bake a cake for anyone else.  There is a name for the practice of forcing people to work for others under the threat of violence.

 

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If you're a big enough loser that you won't bake a cake for a gay wedding because you're a little snowflake who needs a "safe space" from anything that might offend your sensitivities, it seems like your own private business would kind of be the place for that. Why would I want to give you my money if you think so poorly of me to begin with?

 

Discrimination is awful but it's your right to love or hate me for whatever you want. So long as the state is not involved, it seems like a great way to figure out the bigots in your own community.

 

That's just me, though.

 

I wouldn’t give money to someone who hates me and I certainly wouldn’t eat something prepared by someone who hates me.

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There are fitness clubs in my city that are women only.  So that is a form of discrimination too right?  The problem I have is stuff like that can happen and it's all good but something like this goes to the supreme court.  What that implies is that judges are allowed to decide which groups require protection and take measures to counteract that.  That itself is a form of discrimination.

 

 

 

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The issues we place importance on are absolutely absurd:

https://www.salon.com/2018/02/28/beyond-wedding-cakes-to-funerals-new-ad-depicts-high-stakes-of-masterpiece-cakeshop-scotus-case/

 

The supreme court is now going to tell bakers how to bake cakes. Absurd!

 

This is the damage the left has wrought. The most trivial issues become the most important ones. Did Caesar say I came, I saw, I told bakers how to bake cakes? Was Alexander the Great's big accomplishment bringing a new cake recipe to the world? How in the heck did America survive for 200 years without telling bakers how to bake cakes.

 

The Left is a cancer. Its motto was to make the personal political. Its succeeded in destroying everything it touches..politics, the law, universities.

 

The right is also a cancer.  I don't even have to read some obscure court case in the back pages of the newspaper. I just have to turn on the news and the first thing I heard is the right saying the solution to the shooting epidemic in schools (which btw is by and large a US problem) is to arm teachers with  AR-15s.

 

That is more promiment and more absurd.

 

Actually school shootings are by and large a modern problem. They didn't happen when America was more conservative like in the 1930's. Because in the 1930's a kid wouldn't have been even able to conceive of the idea despite the fact that guns were much much much more readily available.

 

Once again I blame this on the Left. They destroyed the culture and destroyed the family. What exactly did you think was going to happen. Most of these kids come from broken homes. And this parallels increases in violence, crime and theft that are largely the product of the 1960's when all this cultural garbage came into force.

 

To blame this on conservatives you would have to show that this problem existed when America was actually much much more conservative (like in the 1930's) and IT DIDNT!!!

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There are fitness clubs in my city that are women only.  So that is a form of discrimination too right?  The problem I have is stuff like that can happen and it's all good but something like this goes to the supreme court.  What that implies is that judges are allowed to decide which groups require protection and take measures to counteract that.  That itself is a form of discrimination.

 

I'm fine with this form of discrimination (although I'd refer to the hippies that run it as giant hypocrites) but I'm fine with any sort of discrimination that does not include a crime (a true crime such as murder, violence, threat of violence etc).

 

Go ahead, cripple your business by not taking customers or employees for an invalid reason (e.g race or sexual orientation). If it's true discrimination (so the reason for exclusion truly makes no business sense) the market will punish your business in the long term for its inefficiency by reduced profits at the best.

 

It should never be illegal to be stupid.

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Actually school shootings are by and large a modern problem. They didn't happen when America was more conservative like in the 1930's. Because in the 1930's a kid wouldn't have been even able to conceive of the idea despite the fact that guns were much much much more readily available.

 

Once again I blame this on the Left. They destroyed the culture and destroyed the family. What exactly did you think was going to happen. Most of these kids come from broken homes. And this parallels increases in violence, crime and theft that are largely the product of the 1960's when all this cultural garbage came into force.

 

To blame this on conservatives you would have to show that this problem existed when America was actually much much more conservative (like in the 1930's) and IT DIDNT!!!

Rukawa, please name which things you would roll back to the 1930s that were undone by the cultural garbage of the 1960s. Please be detailed and specific.

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It seems some on the left want their cake and eat it too.

 

Local store owner bans Republican customers, says they’re evil

 

I think he has every right to do business with whoever he pleases, but so do bakers.  But I'd no sooner do business with him than I'd buy a cake from a homophobic baker, which is my right.  This shouldn't be an issue for government.

 

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What that implies is that judges are allowed to decide which groups require protection and take measures to counteract that. 

 

The wedding cake case currently pending before the Supreme Court involves a First Amendment challenge to the enforcement of a Colorado statute, which was passed by the Colorado Legislature through the normal legislative process.  It does not arise out of "judges . . . decid[ing] which groups require protection[.]"

 

More generally, constitutional equal protection obligations do not apply to private businesses.  So, when you hear about a private business being regulated, its usually a legislatively-enacted statute or an executive-agency regulation that's being applied, not some judge-made diktat.  For example, the rules that bar private businesses from discriminating based on gender or race come from legislatively-enacted statutes, like Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, not from judges.

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Actually school shootings are by and large a modern problem. They didn't happen when America was more conservative like in the 1930's. Because in the 1930's a kid wouldn't have been even able to conceive of the idea despite the fact that guns were much much much more readily available.

 

No they were too busy conceiving of the idea that black people were second class citizens.

 

Are you one of those russian troll bots?

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Anyone who holds up the 1930's as a good example really should bone up on their history.

 

But just as a hint, we have the "Dirty 30's" depression era, Al Capone and his merry band of thieves and, oh yes, that fella in Germany came to power trying to make the country great again while a certain large country on this side of the ocean pursued its ideals of nationalism and isolationism. This stuff didn't work out all that well back then.

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I'd like the names of the books you read that hold the 1930s as the pinnacle of conservatism in America, seems like a tough sell.

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