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Now neither will pass:

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/news/gop-bill-aimed-overhauling-taxes-trump-push-085209780--finance.html

 

They are so intent on shooting themselves in the foot with their stupidity, instead of actually making real changes and pushing the country forward! 

 

Get the tax bill passed, and then try and pass a real actual top to bottom overhaul of Obamacare...why try and finagle it through and jeopardize the tax cuts?!  Cheers!

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While I agree, the Obamacare mandate is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Why should I be forced to overpay for healthcare or otherwise be taxed more? It's a complete load of bullshit. The spin is that more people would be without healthcare. Except the people without it would be choosing not to have it, and saving money.

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But Obamacare has been a resounding success.  Premiums for a Silver plan for my family will only be $2,375 a month next year.  Just a 48% increase from last year. 

 

Tim:

 

How many members are in your family?

 

In my area of the country...there are some families that bring home $2,500 a month after taxes...

 

When I had a job, almost EVERYBODY who was single, elected to go WITHOUT Obamacare and pay the penalty.  It just did not make sense to get insurance...

 

For a lot of people, especially young workers....Obamacare is simply a tax or wealth transfer.  It is not insurance.

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For a lot of people, especially young workers....Obamacare is simply a tax or wealth transfer.  It is not insurance.

It's insurance in that provides you health coverage if you get sick/injured. But yeah, it's priced to ensure coverage for everyone...and a lot of people don't pay. I personally hate it because it's just not designed well.

 

My employer pays for my/my wife's health insurance for about $200/month. I had coworkers who were consultants paying $750/month for the lowest tier Obamacare coverage just for themselves. Ridiculous.

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But Obamacare has been a resounding success.  Premiums for a Silver plan for my family will only be $2,375 a month next year.  Just a 48% increase from last year. 

 

Tim:

 

How many members are in your family?

 

In my area of the country...there are some families that bring home $2,500 a month after taxes...

 

When I had a job, almost EVERYBODY who was single, elected to go WITHOUT Obamacare and pay the penalty.  It just did not make sense to get insurance...

 

For a lot of people, especially young workers....Obamacare is simply a tax or wealth transfer.  It is not insurance.

 

Six in my family.  The bronze plan with the $6,500 deductible and 80/20 split until the $13,000 max out of pocket is much more affordable (haha) at $1600 per month.  For those on modest incomes the subsidy increases to match all, or nearly all, of the increase so their costs don't change much.

 

The system was so poorly designed.  Putting so many high cost people into a relatively small pool was bound to lead to this result.       

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But Obamacare has been a resounding success.  Premiums for a Silver plan for my family will only be $2,375 a month next year.  Just a 48% increase from last year. 

 

Tim, I agree that Obamacare needs to be changed...but tying the tax vote to it will just result in neither passing.  Pass the tax vote and also revamp Obamacare into something that actually works...but two separate bills and get them passed.  Cheers!

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But Obamacare has been a resounding success.  Premiums for a Silver plan for my family will only be $2,375 a month next year.  Just a 48% increase from last year. 

 

Tim, I agree that Obamacare needs to be changed...but tying the tax vote to it will just result in neither passing.  Pass the tax vote and also revamp Obamacare into something that actually works...but two separate bills and get them passed.  Cheers!

 

I'd agree with that!  Don't throw out the tax cuts, or need to compromise on the size, because you can't get support for the Obamacare mandate repeal.  That won't do anyone any good.

 

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I agree with Parsad. Will be interesting to see where the "no" Republican votes come from. The tax code and health care are extremely complex subjects as the Republicans are finding out.

 

I'd love to see Trump spend a good portion of his time campaigning against the moderate Republicans running for reelection next year.  The GOP elite hate him already anyway. Get these idiots out of there.

 

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I agree with Parsad. Will be interesting to see where the "no" Republican votes come from. The tax code and health care are extremely complex subjects as the Republicans are finding out.

 

I'd love to see Trump spend a good portion of his time campaigning against the moderate Republicans running for reelection next year.  The GOP elite hate him already anyway. Get these idiots out of there.

Start with baby steps, I'd love to see him first learn how to drink water:

 

https://i.imgur.com/LtOVJ8i.gifv

 

(he has the basics down, i just think it's a matter of practice at this point)

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To all the Gung-ho Liberals on this website who keep on calling others stupid and not getting anything done (let`s not ask for their investment results or value that they are delivering...), here is Congress approving the Tax Bill:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/house-poised-to-pass-its-tax-bill-as-senate-plan-suffers-setbacks/2017/11/16/62d92fa4-cad7-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.f4c40e1d6b9a

 

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To all the Gung-ho Liberals on this website who keep on calling others stupid and not getting anything done (let`s not ask for their investment results or value that they are delivering...), here is Congress approving the Tax Bill:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/house-poised-to-pass-its-tax-bill-as-senate-plan-suffers-setbacks/2017/11/16/62d92fa4-cad7-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.f4c40e1d6b9a

 

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Not that I don't want to see tax reform passed, but you may recall that the House also passed healthcare reform legislation this year...

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To all the Gung-ho Liberals on this website who keep on calling others stupid and not getting anything done (let`s not ask for their investment results or value that they are delivering...), here is Congress approving the Tax Bill:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/house-poised-to-pass-its-tax-bill-as-senate-plan-suffers-setbacks/2017/11/16/62d92fa4-cad7-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.f4c40e1d6b9a

 

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Weren't you talking about fiscal responsibility on here not so long ago? Do you care to explain what is fiscally responsible about a tax cut that increases the deficit by some 1.5 trillion over 10 years?

 

Edit: Or for that matter when was the last time that Republicans were fiscally responsible when they were in power?

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Trying to divert the discussion RB? How surprising leftie.  ::)

 

Trump promised it and it is getting done. If the Senate or other block it, then please blame the true responsible.

 

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Isn't the Senate controlled by the Republicans?  So it should pass...but if it doesn't pass, then those ultimately responsible are the Republicans.  Why do you righties always do the "If it succeeds, we were responsible...and if it fails, they were responsible, schtick? 

 

It's like Trump, never take any of the blame!  Cheers!

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Trying to divert the discussion RB? How surprising leftie.  ::)

 

Trump promised it and it is getting done. If the Senate or other block it, then please blame the true responsible.

 

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We should actually get rid of the whole leftie/rightie thing.  Democrats/Liberals should be called the "Woe is me" party and the Republican/Conservatives should be called the "Never me" party.  One wants to deal with injustices that go back 500 years and the other wants to deal with injustices preventing them from owning their 3rd Range Rover!  Cheers!

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"Why aren't the other hands up?"

 

For context:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/14/why-arent-the-other-hands-up-a-top-trump-advisers-startling-response-to-ceos-not-doing-what-hed-expect/

 

President Trump's top economic adviser, Gary Cohn, looked out from the stage at a sea of CEOs and top executives in the audience Tuesday for the Wall Street Journal's CEO Council meeting. As Cohn sat comfortably onstage, a Journal editor asked the crowd to raise their hands if their company plans to invest more if the tax reform bill passes.

 

Very few hands went up.

 

Cohn looked surprised. “Why aren't the other hands up?” he said.

 

 

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"Why aren't the other hands up?"

 

For context:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/14/why-arent-the-other-hands-up-a-top-trump-advisers-startling-response-to-ceos-not-doing-what-hed-expect/

 

President Trump's top economic adviser, Gary Cohn, looked out from the stage at a sea of CEOs and top executives in the audience Tuesday for the Wall Street Journal's CEO Council meeting. As Cohn sat comfortably onstage, a Journal editor asked the crowd to raise their hands if their company plans to invest more if the tax reform bill passes.

 

Very few hands went up.

 

Cohn looked surprised. “Why aren't the other hands up?” he said.

They were being honest.

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"Why aren't the other hands up?"

 

For context:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/14/why-arent-the-other-hands-up-a-top-trump-advisers-startling-response-to-ceos-not-doing-what-hed-expect/

 

President Trump's top economic adviser, Gary Cohn, looked out from the stage at a sea of CEOs and top executives in the audience Tuesday for the Wall Street Journal's CEO Council meeting. As Cohn sat comfortably onstage, a Journal editor asked the crowd to raise their hands if their company plans to invest more if the tax reform bill passes.

 

Very few hands went up.

 

Cohn looked surprised. “Why aren't the other hands up?” he said.

They were being honest.

 

No no no they are apart of the swamp and were paid off by the fake news Washington Post and NY Times.

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"Why aren't the other hands up?"

 

For context:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/11/14/why-arent-the-other-hands-up-a-top-trump-advisers-startling-response-to-ceos-not-doing-what-hed-expect/

 

President Trump's top economic adviser, Gary Cohn, looked out from the stage at a sea of CEOs and top executives in the audience Tuesday for the Wall Street Journal's CEO Council meeting. As Cohn sat comfortably onstage, a Journal editor asked the crowd to raise their hands if their company plans to invest more if the tax reform bill passes.

 

Very few hands went up.

 

Cohn looked surprised. “Why aren't the other hands up?” he said.

 

(Apropos the wording for this thread's title):  The WSJ editor asked a "So Stupid" question.

 

Any really good CEO would never make investment decisions based on a single factor.  No wonder he's a journalist:  no skin in the game, no brains to run a complex organization.

 

 

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Any really good CEO would never make investment decisions based on a single factor.  No wonder he's a journalist:  no skin in the game, no brains to run a complex organization.

 

But Trump is selling the tax break to the wealthy as a means to increase reinvestment in American business. Shouldn't Trump be aware that reinvestment is not dependent on a single factor, as you mention?

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